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		By: Paul Murray		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526075</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was under the impression that missiles travel at mach 7 - 12 and have a total flight time of a couple of seconds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that missiles travel at mach 7 &#8211; 12 and have a total flight time of a couple of seconds.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526074</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Naw, it&#039;s OK.  

Actually, my resistance to the &quot;It&#039;s a plane&quot; rhetoric is that it was so damn certain.  

&quot;Look at this picture of a contrail.  It was a plane, end of story.&quot; 

If that turns out to be correct, and it may well be, that will not be because the certainty interjected in the original commentary on it made it true.  

It isn&#039;t always an airplane.  Sometimes &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/the_night_i_was_almost_abducte.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it&#039;s a boat&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naw, it&#8217;s OK.  </p>
<p>Actually, my resistance to the &#8220;It&#8217;s a plane&#8221; rhetoric is that it was so damn certain.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Look at this picture of a contrail.  It was a plane, end of story.&#8221; </p>
<p>If that turns out to be correct, and it may well be, that will not be because the certainty interjected in the original commentary on it made it true.  </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t always an airplane.  Sometimes <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/the_night_i_was_almost_abducte.php" rel="nofollow">it&#8217;s a boat</a></p>
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		By: Cheyenne		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526073</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously Greg â?? Valium time there bud. I do read your blog. I like it. I donâ??t comment much because I agree with a lot of what you say. 

Go ahead and delete my comment if you think Iâ??m being a â??clueless dickâ? for pointing out that maybe everybody should avoid conjecturing too much. That real information on things like this ALWAYS comes out and 99.99% of the time itâ??s something basic like â??itâ??s just a friggin airplane peopleâ?.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously Greg â?? Valium time there bud. I do read your blog. I like it. I donâ??t comment much because I agree with a lot of what you say. </p>
<p>Go ahead and delete my comment if you think Iâ??m being a â??clueless dickâ? for pointing out that maybe everybody should avoid conjecturing too much. That real information on things like this ALWAYS comes out and 99.99% of the time itâ??s something basic like â??itâ??s just a friggin airplane peopleâ?.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, Cheyenne, you should really read my blog.  Check it out, get back to me, and if you wan&#039;t I&#039;ll delete your comment so you look less like a clueless dick!  :)

Actually, I never thought it was a secret Pentagon rocket. The Pentagon doesn&#039;t have rockets, and the sky over LA is not where they would put one if they did. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Cheyenne, you should really read my blog.  Check it out, get back to me, and if you wan&#8217;t I&#8217;ll delete your comment so you look less like a clueless dick!  🙂</p>
<p>Actually, I never thought it was a secret Pentagon rocket. The Pentagon doesn&#8217;t have rockets, and the sky over LA is not where they would put one if they did. </p>
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		By: Cheyenne		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526071</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheyenne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow Greg youâ??re really sticking to your story on this one being some kind of supa secret Pentagon rocket.

Wouldnâ??t it maybe be better to wait until a little more information comes out before saying â??I&#039;ve seen several sources note that the Pentagon denies that they have anything to do with this. Which pretty much proves that it&#039;s theirs.â?. You sound like a conspiracy guy and not a level headed scientist.

Couldnâ??t this also be one of those air show planes that run smoke generators for effect? Due to the rather dangerous maneuvers they pull itâ??s very common for them to be flying over water or areas that are relatively uninhabited. These also turn off and on based on what the pilot wants. Could easily explain some of the contrail anomalies without having to resort to the claims you are making. That&#039;s one possibility.

Iâ??m pretty sure weâ??ll have a simple answer to this soon. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Greg youâ??re really sticking to your story on this one being some kind of supa secret Pentagon rocket.</p>
<p>Wouldnâ??t it maybe be better to wait until a little more information comes out before saying â??I&#8217;ve seen several sources note that the Pentagon denies that they have anything to do with this. Which pretty much proves that it&#8217;s theirs.â?. You sound like a conspiracy guy and not a level headed scientist.</p>
<p>Couldnâ??t this also be one of those air show planes that run smoke generators for effect? Due to the rather dangerous maneuvers they pull itâ??s very common for them to be flying over water or areas that are relatively uninhabited. These also turn off and on based on what the pilot wants. Could easily explain some of the contrail anomalies without having to resort to the claims you are making. That&#8217;s one possibility.</p>
<p>Iâ??m pretty sure weâ??ll have a simple answer to this soon. </p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw it.  It really looked like a rocket that had blasted into space.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw it.  It really looked like a rocket that had blasted into space.  </p>
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		By: Wyatt		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526069</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I saw a physicist on the Today show talking about the airplane theory.  He said we could not be sure at this time but Occam&#039;s razor suggests plane over rocket.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I saw a physicist on the Today show talking about the airplane theory.  He said we could not be sure at this time but Occam&#8217;s razor suggests plane over rocket.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526068</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: stewart		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526067</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know, myself. I will note, though, that the conditions are right for an airliner to be a bright light - the sun is low on the horizon, the aircraft is high, and incident light will reflect brightly off a fuselage, but not the wings (which wouldn&#039;t show at that angle). Absent further evidence, I don&#039;t see that first video as proof of a rocket, but the NOTAM may help settle it. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, myself. I will note, though, that the conditions are right for an airliner to be a bright light &#8211; the sun is low on the horizon, the aircraft is high, and incident light will reflect brightly off a fuselage, but not the wings (which wouldn&#8217;t show at that angle). Absent further evidence, I don&#8217;t see that first video as proof of a rocket, but the NOTAM may help settle it. </p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/09/splain-this/#comment-526066</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Nomen Clature: Contrails do show up in images in *some* instruments. I never thought of looking for them in the geosync satellite images though - I don&#039;t even know if they will reflect enough light to show up.  For aircraft at altitudes well above 6km, the contrails can show up beautifully in some images even though they are not visible to the eye. The only problem with contrails is that rockets leave contrails too - but I guess they may appear much longer since they are formed in a much shorter time interval. I wouldn&#039;t know for sure though - I never had an interest in checking satellite data for rocket trails. I only know of aircraft trails because they&#039;re a minor nuisance at times (not anywhere as big a nuisance as clouds though).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nomen Clature: Contrails do show up in images in *some* instruments. I never thought of looking for them in the geosync satellite images though &#8211; I don&#8217;t even know if they will reflect enough light to show up.  For aircraft at altitudes well above 6km, the contrails can show up beautifully in some images even though they are not visible to the eye. The only problem with contrails is that rockets leave contrails too &#8211; but I guess they may appear much longer since they are formed in a much shorter time interval. I wouldn&#8217;t know for sure though &#8211; I never had an interest in checking satellite data for rocket trails. I only know of aircraft trails because they&#8217;re a minor nuisance at times (not anywhere as big a nuisance as clouds though).</p>
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