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	Comments on: New in Paperback Book on Permian Mass Extinction	</title>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[William:  Yes, and this post is one of a handful of reposts of book notices or reviews that I&#039;m doing for Back to School Month.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William:  Yes, and this post is one of a handful of reposts of book notices or reviews that I&#8217;m doing for Back to School Month.  </p>
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		By: william e emba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[william e emba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Benton&#039;s book was &quot;now out in paperback&quot; in 2005.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benton&#8217;s book was &#8220;now out in paperback&#8221; in 2005.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;big impact creates the Siberian Traps (antipodal)&quot;.&quot;

I just want to put on record that when that hypothesis was first proposed some time ago, I immediately loved it.  Just sayin&#039; ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;big impact creates the Siberian Traps (antipodal)&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just want to put on record that when that hypothesis was first proposed some time ago, I immediately loved it.  Just sayin&#8217; </p>
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		By: travc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[travc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, that description of the book has some whoppers in it.  Though the Permian Crash (at least that is the name I learned for it back in the day) really was pretty damn catastrophic.

A few quibbles...

Um, will vertebrate paleo folks (and many other people) please realize that by far most species are single celled.  Even among the multicellular, the majority fossilize at rates far far lower than the bony few.  90% of species which we know of from fossils went extinct at the end of the Permian, but that does not mean 90% of all species!

Also, the Permian almost certainly wasn&#039;t the greatest mass extinction event... it was the greatest that fossil forming life actually survived.  Farther back there were almost certainly &quot;world killer&quot; events which wiped everything out.  The relevant phrase is &quot;impact frustration of the origin of life&quot;.

Oh, and for the Permian ending event, I particularly like the &quot;big impact creates the Siberian Traps (antipodal)&quot;.  Seems to be the theory which best survives Occam&#039;s razor at this point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that description of the book has some whoppers in it.  Though the Permian Crash (at least that is the name I learned for it back in the day) really was pretty damn catastrophic.</p>
<p>A few quibbles&#8230;</p>
<p>Um, will vertebrate paleo folks (and many other people) please realize that by far most species are single celled.  Even among the multicellular, the majority fossilize at rates far far lower than the bony few.  90% of species which we know of from fossils went extinct at the end of the Permian, but that does not mean 90% of all species!</p>
<p>Also, the Permian almost certainly wasn&#8217;t the greatest mass extinction event&#8230; it was the greatest that fossil forming life actually survived.  Farther back there were almost certainly &#8220;world killer&#8221; events which wiped everything out.  The relevant phrase is &#8220;impact frustration of the origin of life&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh, and for the Permian ending event, I particularly like the &#8220;big impact creates the Siberian Traps (antipodal)&#8221;.  Seems to be the theory which best survives Occam&#8217;s razor at this point.</p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MadScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No air? None of this nitrogen or oxygen? Well, I&#039;ll have to see the evidence for that.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No air? None of this nitrogen or oxygen? Well, I&#8217;ll have to see the evidence for that.</p>
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		By: Omega Centauri		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/13/new-in-paperback-book-on-permi/#comment-523077</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Omega Centauri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ I gotta second Kris. &quot;Airless&quot; ? Yes we can count fossil species before/after, but still having 10% of species left is still a living planet. And X percent of species in no way implies that net biomass was also at X percent. This sounds more like sensationalism, rather than sober science.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I gotta second Kris. &#8220;Airless&#8221; ? Yes we can count fossil species before/after, but still having 10% of species left is still a living planet. And X percent of species in no way implies that net biomass was also at X percent. This sounds more like sensationalism, rather than sober science.</p>
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		By: Kris Rhodes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kris Rhodes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Erwin&#039;s book isn&#039;t particularly dynamic, but it is informative. Worth reading if you&#039;re interested in the end Permian.

On the other hand, the number of wild inaccuracies and mistruths in this press release make me want to never read the book in question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erwin&#8217;s book isn&#8217;t particularly dynamic, but it is informative. Worth reading if you&#8217;re interested in the end Permian.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the number of wild inaccuracies and mistruths in this press release make me want to never read the book in question.</p>
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		By: Markk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Douglas Erwin&#039;s book &quot;Extinction&quot; about this event I have always considered one of the great descriptions of the back and forth of scientific theories to be written. It is aimed at an adult and informed reader. I&#039;ve never read Benton but I thought I would plug another wonderful book about the same subject. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas Erwin&#8217;s book &#8220;Extinction&#8221; about this event I have always considered one of the great descriptions of the back and forth of scientific theories to be written. It is aimed at an adult and informed reader. I&#8217;ve never read Benton but I thought I would plug another wonderful book about the same subject. </p>
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		By: stripey_cat		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/13/new-in-paperback-book-on-permi/#comment-523074</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stripey_cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How the heck do we know what was happening to the bacteria and archaea of the period?  Damn Eukaryote prejudices!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the heck do we know what was happening to the bacteria and archaea of the period?  Damn Eukaryote prejudices!</p>
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		By: Jason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris, I was thinking the same thing... what an obvious mistake.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I was thinking the same thing&#8230; what an obvious mistake.  </p>
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