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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/02/what-is-life/#comment-522658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In introductory courses, which go from Mendel to molecular biology, I stressed to students that the definition of a gene will change throughout the course.  So be ready to abandon the old and learn the new.  I think using a historical approach, which illustrates how understanding changes with new evidence, is an important element in communicating the nature of science.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In introductory courses, which go from Mendel to molecular biology, I stressed to students that the definition of a gene will change throughout the course.  So be ready to abandon the old and learn the new.  I think using a historical approach, which illustrates how understanding changes with new evidence, is an important element in communicating the nature of science.  </p>
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		By: Larry Moran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Moran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson says,

&lt;blockquote&gt;It is again the problem of how to simplify without lying too much.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly. My solution is to avoid lying whenever possible. In this case, it might be appropriate to tell students that we are going to describe the traditional view of photosynthesis in flowering plants. You could mention that later on they will learn about different versions of photosynthesis in other species, such as bacteria and algae.

The problem with that version of teaching is that is misses several opportunities to really educate students. We all know that students enter the classroomâ??or open a textbookâ??with certain biases. One of the best ways to teach critical thinking is to confront those biases and challenge students to think of other possibilities. If we continue to cater our education goals to the pre-conceived notions that students already have then we aren&#039;t really doing our job as teachers.

The fact that Earth&#039;s atmosphere contains oxygen is due to bacteria, not plants. Even today, 30% of the oxygen is produced by bacteria. What&#039;s wrong with telling students about this? And what&#039;s wrong with explaining that the &quot;synthesis&quot; part of photosynthesis is production of ATP and NADPH then going on the explain that those &quot;energy&quot; molecules can be used to make proteins, nucleic acids, carbohydrates, and lipids? Wouldn&#039;t than contribute to changing students&#039; perspectives about life? Isn&#039;t that the goal of education?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Thomerson says,</p>
<blockquote><p>It is again the problem of how to simplify without lying too much.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly. My solution is to avoid lying whenever possible. In this case, it might be appropriate to tell students that we are going to describe the traditional view of photosynthesis in flowering plants. You could mention that later on they will learn about different versions of photosynthesis in other species, such as bacteria and algae.</p>
<p>The problem with that version of teaching is that is misses several opportunities to really educate students. We all know that students enter the classroomâ??or open a textbookâ??with certain biases. One of the best ways to teach critical thinking is to confront those biases and challenge students to think of other possibilities. If we continue to cater our education goals to the pre-conceived notions that students already have then we aren&#8217;t really doing our job as teachers.</p>
<p>The fact that Earth&#8217;s atmosphere contains oxygen is due to bacteria, not plants. Even today, 30% of the oxygen is produced by bacteria. What&#8217;s wrong with telling students about this? And what&#8217;s wrong with explaining that the &#8220;synthesis&#8221; part of photosynthesis is production of ATP and NADPH then going on the explain that those &#8220;energy&#8221; molecules can be used to make proteins, nucleic acids, carbohydrates, and lipids? Wouldn&#8217;t than contribute to changing students&#8217; perspectives about life? Isn&#8217;t that the goal of education?<br /></p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/02/what-is-life/#comment-522656</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Googled around on size of atoms and gave up.  I vaguely recall an illustration in some text of a water molecule as a &quot;Mickey Mouse head&quot;  With the sizes if the H and O atoms given, as well as the angle between the position of the two H atoms.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googled around on size of atoms and gave up.  I vaguely recall an illustration in some text of a water molecule as a &#8220;Mickey Mouse head&#8221;  With the sizes if the H and O atoms given, as well as the angle between the position of the two H atoms.  </p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recall using one introductory freshman university level text which discussed photosynthesis I and photosynthesis II. It is again the problem of how to simplify without lying too much.  One of my geology professors claimed that the first year of geology education was lying to the student, and the next three years consisted of trying to convince the students they had been lied to.  Some truth in that!

As a curious question, how much of the history of photosynthesis research should be covered?  Should students be told about the experiment which showed that the O2 comes from oxygen and not from CO2, for example?  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall using one introductory freshman university level text which discussed photosynthesis I and photosynthesis II. It is again the problem of how to simplify without lying too much.  One of my geology professors claimed that the first year of geology education was lying to the student, and the next three years consisted of trying to convince the students they had been lied to.  Some truth in that!</p>
<p>As a curious question, how much of the history of photosynthesis research should be covered?  Should students be told about the experiment which showed that the O2 comes from oxygen and not from CO2, for example?  </p>
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		By: Larry Moran		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/02/what-is-life/#comment-522654</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Moran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of the &quot;big picture&quot; .... In my biochemistry textbook I define photosynthesis as the process that converts light energy into synthesis of chemical energy in the form of ATP molecules (and NADPH). 

This definition applies to all species, including those that don&#039;t use water as a source of electrons and don&#039;t release oxygen as a by-product. What it means is that my students will get a big picture view of photosynthesis covering bacteria, single-cell eukaryotes, and plants. One they&#039;ve understood the basics, we can concentrate on describing more specialized versions of photosynthesis, including the one that occurs in plants.

I explain that many species can fix carbon. The process that often occurs is called the Calvin cycle and it&#039;s the one that is most often mixed in with photosynthesis in introductory textbooks. That&#039;s because we usually think of big plants when we think of photosynthesis and those big  plants need lots of structural carbohydrate (e.g. cellulose). This old, out-of-date, view of photosynthesis comes from a time when bacteria and algae got short shrift in school. 

In most other species, the ATP generated by photosynthesis is used for all kinds of things like protein synthesis, nucleic acid synthesis, and fatty acid synthesis. When you look at the big picture, you realize that the captured light energy isn&#039;t just used to make carbohydrates. This is especially true in bacteria and algaeâ??species that don&#039;t contain a lot of stored carbohydrates. There is no direct linkage between photosynthesis, as I define it, and the synthesis of carbohydrate. 

And oxygen production is not a necessary part of photosynthesis.

That&#039;s what I mean by the &quot;big picture.&quot;  

In fairness, my (correct) viewpoint is a minority one. Almost all textbooks and websites describe photosynthesis as a process that converts light energy into sugars. If that&#039;s the &quot;big picture&quot; then where do plants get the energy to make everything else? Is it by breaking down sugar as soon as it&#039;s made? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the &#8220;big picture&#8221; &#8230;. In my biochemistry textbook I define photosynthesis as the process that converts light energy into synthesis of chemical energy in the form of ATP molecules (and NADPH). </p>
<p>This definition applies to all species, including those that don&#8217;t use water as a source of electrons and don&#8217;t release oxygen as a by-product. What it means is that my students will get a big picture view of photosynthesis covering bacteria, single-cell eukaryotes, and plants. One they&#8217;ve understood the basics, we can concentrate on describing more specialized versions of photosynthesis, including the one that occurs in plants.</p>
<p>I explain that many species can fix carbon. The process that often occurs is called the Calvin cycle and it&#8217;s the one that is most often mixed in with photosynthesis in introductory textbooks. That&#8217;s because we usually think of big plants when we think of photosynthesis and those big  plants need lots of structural carbohydrate (e.g. cellulose). This old, out-of-date, view of photosynthesis comes from a time when bacteria and algae got short shrift in school. </p>
<p>In most other species, the ATP generated by photosynthesis is used for all kinds of things like protein synthesis, nucleic acid synthesis, and fatty acid synthesis. When you look at the big picture, you realize that the captured light energy isn&#8217;t just used to make carbohydrates. This is especially true in bacteria and algaeâ??species that don&#8217;t contain a lot of stored carbohydrates. There is no direct linkage between photosynthesis, as I define it, and the synthesis of carbohydrate. </p>
<p>And oxygen production is not a necessary part of photosynthesis.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I mean by the &#8220;big picture.&#8221;  </p>
<p>In fairness, my (correct) viewpoint is a minority one. Almost all textbooks and websites describe photosynthesis as a process that converts light energy into sugars. If that&#8217;s the &#8220;big picture&#8221; then where do plants get the energy to make everything else? Is it by breaking down sugar as soon as it&#8217;s made? </p>
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		By: johng		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, thanks for considering my question on the portrayal of CO2 molecules. A search of images on google will reveal numerous images using both O being larger and O being smaller. My impression is that O being smaller is more common and is the way it&#039;s shown on wikipedia. At this point, the best I can try to do is not introduce a third way of representing CO2.  :)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, thanks for considering my question on the portrayal of CO2 molecules. A search of images on google will reveal numerous images using both O being larger and O being smaller. My impression is that O being smaller is more common and is the way it&#8217;s shown on wikipedia. At this point, the best I can try to do is not introduce a third way of representing CO2.  🙂</p>
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		By: Elliot Mitchell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elliot Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WIL is a contemporary, high-energy book with GREAT illustrations. It is a fresh start, not the revision of a revision of a revision, as we see so often.  This will be the second year that I have used Jay&#039;s text for my advanced HS student, though I&#039;m &quot;upgrading&quot; to the new version that includes Physiology (plants and animals).  Having also taught AP Bio with Campbell, mentioned above, this would be a very appropriate choice for that, as well.  What is refreshing to both me and my students, is that Jay&#039;s narrative is engaging, coherent, and always keeps the interests of the reader in mind.   I have also found Jay&#039;s organization VERY classroom friendly.  Chapters and sub-chapters are nicely divided in ways that make them easy to assign or to skip (reality check; most of us won&#039;t be able to do all 980+pgs). Another specific feature that has helped my teaching is the thorough integration of evolution into most chapters.  I have used at least a dozen textbooks over the years, and this is by far the best; complex, yet not overwhelming; clear and engaging; accurate and filled with current topics of interest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIL is a contemporary, high-energy book with GREAT illustrations. It is a fresh start, not the revision of a revision of a revision, as we see so often.  This will be the second year that I have used Jay&#8217;s text for my advanced HS student, though I&#8217;m &#8220;upgrading&#8221; to the new version that includes Physiology (plants and animals).  Having also taught AP Bio with Campbell, mentioned above, this would be a very appropriate choice for that, as well.  What is refreshing to both me and my students, is that Jay&#8217;s narrative is engaging, coherent, and always keeps the interests of the reader in mind.   I have also found Jay&#8217;s organization VERY classroom friendly.  Chapters and sub-chapters are nicely divided in ways that make them easy to assign or to skip (reality check; most of us won&#8217;t be able to do all 980+pgs). Another specific feature that has helped my teaching is the thorough integration of evolution into most chapters.  I have used at least a dozen textbooks over the years, and this is by far the best; complex, yet not overwhelming; clear and engaging; accurate and filled with current topics of interest.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John, I&#039;ve been thinking about your question all evening off and on, and I&#039;m not sure.  The two atoms should not be of too different a size (compared to either one next to lead or helium, for instance).  O is often O2 ... maybe that&#039;s influencing one of the versions of diagrams you&#039;ve seen.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I&#8217;ve been thinking about your question all evening off and on, and I&#8217;m not sure.  The two atoms should not be of too different a size (compared to either one next to lead or helium, for instance).  O is often O2 &#8230; maybe that&#8217;s influencing one of the versions of diagrams you&#8217;ve seen.  </p>
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		By: garry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i don&#039;t understand the diagram.  where does the Jesus go?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t understand the diagram.  where does the Jesus go?</p>
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		By: John G		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious about the portrayal of the CO2 molecule. Though O is the heavier elements, illustrations elsewhere show the Os as smaller, whereas the one above shows the Os as larger. Is there an accepted correct version? If showing O as smaller is standard, then why? (I have a genuine need to draw a CO2 molecule soon, so I welcome an opinion.)
thanks
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious about the portrayal of the CO2 molecule. Though O is the heavier elements, illustrations elsewhere show the Os as smaller, whereas the one above shows the Os as larger. Is there an accepted correct version? If showing O as smaller is standard, then why? (I have a genuine need to draw a CO2 molecule soon, so I welcome an opinion.)<br />
thanks<br />
jg</p>
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