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		By: Vimax		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vimax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Give your school principle or science teacher a gift. Today, I&#039;m recommending a copy of a book that outlines the nightmares of being in a school system that becomes a battle ground for science education vs. creationism. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give your school principle or science teacher a gift. Today, I&#8217;m recommending a copy of a book that outlines the nightmares of being in a school system that becomes a battle ground for science education vs. creationism. </p>
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		By: Maria&#124; Maria de la O		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522544</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria&#124; Maria de la O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 19:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, there should be no religion in schools, from small, we inculcate ethnic differences into the children.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, there should be no religion in schools, from small, we inculcate ethnic differences into the children.</p>
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		By: marvin nubwaxer		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522543</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marvin nubwaxer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[when i was a child science and the citizens of the united states wiped polio off the earth.  that was our high point as a nation i believe.  and back in the fifties and sixties i got a damn decent education in the public schools without church intrusion.
sunday school was on sunday, education was monday through friday, and religion i have now reasoned is a mental disorder.  religion in any guise or dose has no place in schools.  none.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i was a child science and the citizens of the united states wiped polio off the earth.  that was our high point as a nation i believe.  and back in the fifties and sixties i got a damn decent education in the public schools without church intrusion.<br />
sunday school was on sunday, education was monday through friday, and religion i have now reasoned is a mental disorder.  religion in any guise or dose has no place in schools.  none.</p>
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		By: Craig Evans		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522542</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fine idea to gift Ms. Lebo&#039;s book to teachers and other school officials.
My daughter is currently taking 10th grade biology and is using Ken Miller&#039;s &quot;dragonfly&quot; textbook.  Dr. Miller&#039;s book was in the middle of the Dover trial, and he was on of the expert witnesses for the winning side.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fine idea to gift Ms. Lebo&#8217;s book to teachers and other school officials.<br />
My daughter is currently taking 10th grade biology and is using Ken Miller&#8217;s &#8220;dragonfly&#8221; textbook.  Dr. Miller&#8217;s book was in the middle of the Dover trial, and he was on of the expert witnesses for the winning side.</p>
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		By: RBH		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522541</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RBH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 06:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve Fisher asked&lt;blockquote&gt;Who would you recommend putting them in touch with? &lt;/blockquote&gt;
In the first instance the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ncse.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;National Center for Science Education&lt;/a&gt;.  They can put you in touch with resources in your area and serve as a backstop and advisor for your own efforts.  Cobb County &lt;a href=&quot;http://ncse.com/creationism/legal/selman-v-cobb-county-textbook-disclaimer-case&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has a history&lt;/a&gt; and I&#039;m sure NCSE has identified resources on the ground there. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Fisher asked</p>
<blockquote><p>Who would you recommend putting them in touch with? </p></blockquote>
<p>In the first instance the <a href="http://ncse.com" rel="nofollow">National Center for Science Education</a>.  They can put you in touch with resources in your area and serve as a backstop and advisor for your own efforts.  Cobb County <a href="http://ncse.com/creationism/legal/selman-v-cobb-county-textbook-disclaimer-case" rel="nofollow">has a history</a> and I&#8217;m sure NCSE has identified resources on the ground there. </p>
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		By: ToSeek		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522540</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ToSeek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a superb book. Unfortunately, she took her time with it while lesser books that were more promptly (hurriedly?) published garnered more interest because they were still riding the wave of publicity from the trial. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a superb book. Unfortunately, she took her time with it while lesser books that were more promptly (hurriedly?) published garnered more interest because they were still riding the wave of publicity from the trial. </p>
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		By: jg		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522539</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious what any of you would have done in my situation. I&#039;m not a scientist, but through my astronomy club I&#039;ve created many oportunities to share my view of science with public and private schools. My club put on an astronomy night for a creationist school, which interviewed me before the event to explain their creationist position and learn if that&#039;s a conflict. When asked about evolution, I said that the subject doesn&#039;t come up, but stellar distances, and therefore the time implied by them, does. They were ok with distances of millions of light years. 

Then, and now, I would have hated our differences on evolution to have scuttled what was a successful night of science. I&#039;ve reached the conclusion that I&#039;ll get no where on climate change or evolution with some groups unless they like me first. Pandering?

thanks,
jg
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious what any of you would have done in my situation. I&#8217;m not a scientist, but through my astronomy club I&#8217;ve created many oportunities to share my view of science with public and private schools. My club put on an astronomy night for a creationist school, which interviewed me before the event to explain their creationist position and learn if that&#8217;s a conflict. When asked about evolution, I said that the subject doesn&#8217;t come up, but stellar distances, and therefore the time implied by them, does. They were ok with distances of millions of light years. </p>
<p>Then, and now, I would have hated our differences on evolution to have scuttled what was a successful night of science. I&#8217;ve reached the conclusion that I&#8217;ll get no where on climate change or evolution with some groups unless they like me first. Pandering?</p>
<p>thanks,<br />
jg</p>
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		By: rob		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522538</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lol. creationists laugh nervously.

gotta get me teh book!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. creationists laugh nervously.</p>
<p>gotta get me teh book!</p>
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		By: Eric Juve		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522537</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Juve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Giving Lauri&#039;s book is a great idea. I am going to have to order a few copies. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving Lauri&#8217;s book is a great idea. I am going to have to order a few copies. Thanks.</p>
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		By: The Science Pundit		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-devil-in-dover/#comment-522536</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Science Pundit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://thesciencepundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/devil-in-dover.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I agree&lt;/a&gt;.  Everyone even remotely involved in education should pick up a copy of that book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thesciencepundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/devil-in-dover.html" rel="nofollow">I agree</a>.  Everyone even remotely involved in education should pick up a copy of that book.</p>
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