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	Comments on: Florida Man with No Background in Science Determines that Creationism is a Valid Theory for How Life Got There and What it Is	</title>
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		By: Jesse Lingeman		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/30/florida-man-with-no-background/#comment-522579</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Lingeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;quote&gt;May Mr. Butt be the vessel through which God&#039;s knowledge flows unto you.&lt;/quote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Tuco: Hahahaha, this made my day.  Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><quote>May Mr. Butt be the vessel through which God&#8217;s knowledge flows unto you.</quote></p>
<p> Tuco: Hahahaha, this made my day.  Thank you.</p>
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		By: MacTurk		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/30/florida-man-with-no-background/#comment-522578</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MacTurk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ronald Reagan once said &quot;It&#039;s morning in America&quot;.  The seeming electability of Ms S. Palin, and the strong urge to &quot;Teach the controversy&quot;, are two signs that America&#039;s reign is over, and the sun is setting. 

Once you institutionalise stupidity and ignorance, the end is becoming visible. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald Reagan once said &#8220;It&#8217;s morning in America&#8221;.  The seeming electability of Ms S. Palin, and the strong urge to &#8220;Teach the controversy&#8221;, are two signs that America&#8217;s reign is over, and the sun is setting. </p>
<p>Once you institutionalise stupidity and ignorance, the end is becoming visible. </p>
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		By: sailor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sailor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tuco @18: excellent post. LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuco @18: excellent post. LOL</p>
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		By: Mike Hanson-Haubrich		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/30/florida-man-with-no-background/#comment-522576</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hanson-Haubrich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just wonder if Mr. Butts has examined the Ussher method of non-radioactive dating and found it incontrovertible.  Because, you know, one second off from its claimed accuracy and creationism is toast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wonder if Mr. Butts has examined the Ussher method of non-radioactive dating and found it incontrovertible.  Because, you know, one second off from its claimed accuracy and creationism is toast.</p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/30/florida-man-with-no-background/#comment-522575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MadScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, of course the creationists have to deny that radioisotope dating works - otherwise they&#039;d have to admit that god is a dumbass and doesn&#039;t even know how old the universe is. Well, it&#039;s that or god&#039;s an asshole faking things to get us to believe that the universe is older than it really is. Then again we know from astronomy that god is an asshole who&#039;s created stars with light already arriving at the earth just so we&#039;d think that the universe must be extremely old based on the estimate of astronomical distances and the speed of light (which has still not been demonstrated to change in a vacuum).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, of course the creationists have to deny that radioisotope dating works &#8211; otherwise they&#8217;d have to admit that god is a dumbass and doesn&#8217;t even know how old the universe is. Well, it&#8217;s that or god&#8217;s an asshole faking things to get us to believe that the universe is older than it really is. Then again we know from astronomy that god is an asshole who&#8217;s created stars with light already arriving at the earth just so we&#8217;d think that the universe must be extremely old based on the estimate of astronomical distances and the speed of light (which has still not been demonstrated to change in a vacuum).</p>
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		By: Jos		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/30/florida-man-with-no-background/#comment-522574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Mr. Davis is certainly entitled to his uniformed opinion...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Uniformed? Or uninformed? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mr. Davis is certainly entitled to his uniformed opinion&#8230;</i><br />
Uniformed? Or uninformed? </p>
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		By: Thinker		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/30/florida-man-with-no-background/#comment-522573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tuco @18:

Great post -- I had no idea that was the origin of the expression &quot;to pull something out of one&#039;s Butt&quot;...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuco @18:</p>
<p>Great post &#8212; I had no idea that was the origin of the expression &#8220;to pull something out of one&#8217;s Butt&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Tom S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Or, just do what happened:  Decide in federal court that &quot;teaching the controversy&quot; is &quot;teaching religion.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, just do what happened:  Decide in federal court that &#8220;teaching the controversy&#8221; is &#8220;teaching religion.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Tuco		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/30/florida-man-with-no-background/#comment-522571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tuco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@sailor &amp; Greg, 
Respectfully, it is clear from your dismissive comments that you are unaware of the bona fide scientific credentials of one Mr. Kyle Butt, M.A., the author of the groundbreaking scientific paper to which Fema Camp Prisoner #176-167 provides a link in his (or her) comment. 
As Mr. Butt&#039;s CV demonstrates, (http://www.apologeticspress.org/staff/kb) not only does he hold a B.A. with a &lt;i&gt;double major&lt;/i&gt; in Bible &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; communications, but he also holds an M.A. in New Testament, both from Freed-Hardeman University, where one can study biology in a spirit of free inquiry unobstructed by the cumbersome impediments of the unproven &quot;scientific&quot; &quot;theory&quot; &quot;of&quot; &quot;evolution.&quot; 
However, because of Mr. Butt&#039;s advanced education and training and fundamental understanding of God&#039;s Truth and Plan For Us All, it is not necessary for him to have any training or formal education in &quot;science&quot; in order for him to reveal &quot;the pseudo-science of evolutionary propaganda&quot; (http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/240423). 
If you are still skeptical of Mr. Butt&#039;s scientific expertise, a simple look at a list of just his recent scientific publications - some of which cite as many as &lt;i&gt;four&lt;/i&gt; references - will quickly erase any doubts: 

Origin of Life Drowned In Lake of False Assumptions
Shubinâ??s Subtly Deceptive â??Gill Archesâ?
Flood Carves a Channel Through Uniformitarian Ideas
Falsely Equating Similarity With History
A Soulâ??s Salvation Could Hinge On the Earthâ??s Age
Dawkinsâ?? Indirect Scientific Inference

Mr. Butt&#039;s expose on deceptive gill arches alone is more than enough proof that evolution is not scientific, but in addition to these definitive refudiations of &quot;the pseudo-science of evolutionary propaganda,&quot; Mr. Butt serves in the Bible department at Apologetics Press and also as editor of &lt;i&gt;Discovery&lt;/i&gt;, &quot;a colorful monthly magazine on Scripture and science for kids&quot; (http://www.discoverymagazine.com/about.html#what). &lt;i&gt;Discovery&lt;/i&gt; is not limited by the narrow definition of &quot;science&quot; commonly used by &quot;scientists,&quot; but instead is committed to the mission of teaching children that &quot;science&quot; isn&#039;t just about &quot;evidence,&quot; as described in the website&#039;s FAQ section:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Science is our main focus, but we run the gamut from archaeology to ethics to miracles. The point of each issue is to build and reinforce Christian faith.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thus &lt;i&gt;Discovery&lt;/i&gt; magazine focuses on a broad range of subjects, tackling both science and miracles with equal dexterity, and features articles on a variety of scientific topics, from God&#039;s design of the vertebrate skeleton to God&#039;s design of bumblebees to God&#039;s design of the snake, and even God&#039;s design of the universe. Not to mention God&#039;s design of dragons, God&#039;s design of eagles, and God&#039;s design of whales. &lt;i&gt;Discovery&lt;/i&gt; has also featured articles which:

Showed that the &quot;theory&quot; of evolution is so weak that it can be easily disproved by a single quote by one scientist  (&quot;What concrete evidence supports that remarkable theory [evolution] of the origin of life? There is none.&quot; -Robert Jastrow.

Provided incontrovertible proof that &quot;Evolution is Against the Law!&quot; 

Systematically dismantled Hume&#039;s empiricism in four paragraphs (&quot;MR. HUME TRIES TO &quot;PULL A FAST ONE&quot; by Trevor Major http://www.discoverymagazine.com/articles/d2000/d0002e.htm)

Additional &lt;i&gt;Discovery&lt;/i&gt; articles include:

&quot;The Dead Will Rise!&quot; 
&quot;Did Jesus Just Faint?&quot;
&quot;Let&#039;s Hear It For Hair!&quot;
&quot;Something Can&#039;t Come From Nothing&quot;
and
&quot;What Use is the Old Testament Anyway?&quot;

But Mr. Butt&#039;s expertise and analytical skills are not limited to the sciences; his writings have also addressed political and economy concerns (&quot;Defending the Bibleâ??s Position on Slavery&quot;), current events (&quot;Was Moses on Drugs?&quot;), and thorny philosophical questions (&quot;The Problem of Evil&quot;). What&#039;s more, his analysis of The Problem of Evil provides a definitive answer to a question others have struggled to address for centuries in under 4,000 words! 

I hope that this information has been useful to you, and I pray that God will guide you in seeing that Mr. Butt&#039;s scientific analysis can lift the veil of scientific ignorance that is keeping you from seeing the True scientific Truth that is right before you but that you cannot see because of the whole veil thing. 

May Mr. Butt be the vessel through which God&#039;s knowledge flows unto you. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sailor &#038; Greg,<br />
Respectfully, it is clear from your dismissive comments that you are unaware of the bona fide scientific credentials of one Mr. Kyle Butt, M.A., the author of the groundbreaking scientific paper to which Fema Camp Prisoner #176-167 provides a link in his (or her) comment.<br />
As Mr. Butt&#8217;s CV demonstrates, (<a href="http://www.apologeticspress.org/staff/kb" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.apologeticspress.org/staff/kb</a>) not only does he hold a B.A. with a <i>double major</i> in Bible <i>and</i> communications, but he also holds an M.A. in New Testament, both from Freed-Hardeman University, where one can study biology in a spirit of free inquiry unobstructed by the cumbersome impediments of the unproven &#8220;scientific&#8221; &#8220;theory&#8221; &#8220;of&#8221; &#8220;evolution.&#8221;<br />
However, because of Mr. Butt&#8217;s advanced education and training and fundamental understanding of God&#8217;s Truth and Plan For Us All, it is not necessary for him to have any training or formal education in &#8220;science&#8221; in order for him to reveal &#8220;the pseudo-science of evolutionary propaganda&#8221; (<a href="http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/240423" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/240423</a>).<br />
If you are still skeptical of Mr. Butt&#8217;s scientific expertise, a simple look at a list of just his recent scientific publications &#8211; some of which cite as many as <i>four</i> references &#8211; will quickly erase any doubts: </p>
<p>Origin of Life Drowned In Lake of False Assumptions<br />
Shubinâ??s Subtly Deceptive â??Gill Archesâ?<br />
Flood Carves a Channel Through Uniformitarian Ideas<br />
Falsely Equating Similarity With History<br />
A Soulâ??s Salvation Could Hinge On the Earthâ??s Age<br />
Dawkinsâ?? Indirect Scientific Inference</p>
<p>Mr. Butt&#8217;s expose on deceptive gill arches alone is more than enough proof that evolution is not scientific, but in addition to these definitive refudiations of &#8220;the pseudo-science of evolutionary propaganda,&#8221; Mr. Butt serves in the Bible department at Apologetics Press and also as editor of <i>Discovery</i>, &#8220;a colorful monthly magazine on Scripture and science for kids&#8221; (<a href="http://www.discoverymagazine.com/about.html#what" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.discoverymagazine.com/about.html#what</a>). <i>Discovery</i> is not limited by the narrow definition of &#8220;science&#8221; commonly used by &#8220;scientists,&#8221; but instead is committed to the mission of teaching children that &#8220;science&#8221; isn&#8217;t just about &#8220;evidence,&#8221; as described in the website&#8217;s FAQ section:</p>
<blockquote><p>Science is our main focus, but we run the gamut from archaeology to ethics to miracles. The point of each issue is to build and reinforce Christian faith.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thus <i>Discovery</i> magazine focuses on a broad range of subjects, tackling both science and miracles with equal dexterity, and features articles on a variety of scientific topics, from God&#8217;s design of the vertebrate skeleton to God&#8217;s design of bumblebees to God&#8217;s design of the snake, and even God&#8217;s design of the universe. Not to mention God&#8217;s design of dragons, God&#8217;s design of eagles, and God&#8217;s design of whales. <i>Discovery</i> has also featured articles which:</p>
<p>Showed that the &#8220;theory&#8221; of evolution is so weak that it can be easily disproved by a single quote by one scientist  (&#8220;What concrete evidence supports that remarkable theory [evolution] of the origin of life? There is none.&#8221; -Robert Jastrow.</p>
<p>Provided incontrovertible proof that &#8220;Evolution is Against the Law!&#8221; </p>
<p>Systematically dismantled Hume&#8217;s empiricism in four paragraphs (&#8220;MR. HUME TRIES TO &#8220;PULL A FAST ONE&#8221; by Trevor Major <a href="http://www.discoverymagazine.com/articles/d2000/d0002e.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.discoverymagazine.com/articles/d2000/d0002e.htm</a>)</p>
<p>Additional <i>Discovery</i> articles include:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Dead Will Rise!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Did Jesus Just Faint?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Let&#8217;s Hear It For Hair!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Something Can&#8217;t Come From Nothing&#8221;<br />
and<br />
&#8220;What Use is the Old Testament Anyway?&#8221;</p>
<p>But Mr. Butt&#8217;s expertise and analytical skills are not limited to the sciences; his writings have also addressed political and economy concerns (&#8220;Defending the Bibleâ??s Position on Slavery&#8221;), current events (&#8220;Was Moses on Drugs?&#8221;), and thorny philosophical questions (&#8220;The Problem of Evil&#8221;). What&#8217;s more, his analysis of The Problem of Evil provides a definitive answer to a question others have struggled to address for centuries in under 4,000 words! </p>
<p>I hope that this information has been useful to you, and I pray that God will guide you in seeing that Mr. Butt&#8217;s scientific analysis can lift the veil of scientific ignorance that is keeping you from seeing the True scientific Truth that is right before you but that you cannot see because of the whole veil thing. </p>
<p>May Mr. Butt be the vessel through which God&#8217;s knowledge flows unto you. </p>
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		By: g724		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 04:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What to do about this: 

If the creationists rationalize themselves with the &quot;academic freedom&quot; arguement and in particular the &quot;teach all sides of the question&quot; arguement, then demand the teaching of MARXISM in economics &amp; history classes.  

OTOH it might also be interesting to go into the rightie-wingers&#039; extremist churches and start demanding the teaching of evolution in their Sunday school classes.  Do it loud &amp; proud, on a war footing, with a no-compromise attitude that mirrors the fundies&#039; attitudes in the school board meetings.  Eventually arrive at a compromise, thusly:  &quot;We&#039;ll stop disrupting your church services and you stop disrupting our educational system.  Deal?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What to do about this: </p>
<p>If the creationists rationalize themselves with the &#8220;academic freedom&#8221; arguement and in particular the &#8220;teach all sides of the question&#8221; arguement, then demand the teaching of MARXISM in economics &#038; history classes.  </p>
<p>OTOH it might also be interesting to go into the rightie-wingers&#8217; extremist churches and start demanding the teaching of evolution in their Sunday school classes.  Do it loud &#038; proud, on a war footing, with a no-compromise attitude that mirrors the fundies&#8217; attitudes in the school board meetings.  Eventually arrive at a compromise, thusly:  &#8220;We&#8217;ll stop disrupting your church services and you stop disrupting our educational system.  Deal?&#8221;</p>
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