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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/24/why-do-women-shop/#comment-522271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t refute it because I dismissed it. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/12/the_natural_basis_for_gender_i.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this post&lt;/a&gt; for why I dismissed it.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t refute it because I dismissed it. See <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/12/the_natural_basis_for_gender_i.php" rel="nofollow"> this post</a> for why I dismissed it.  </p>
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		By: r		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/24/why-do-women-shop/#comment-522270</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came here looking for the study that discounted this stupid study. I thought someone had done that. Didn&#039;t they?
I love shopping for shoes and clothes but I don&#039;t think it has anything to do with rivalry or my estrous cycles. Its actually a gradual increase in self-acceptance and acceptance of by body-shape, and now I want to dress it in stuff that&#039;ll flatter my shape, not hide it. It&#039;s all about me, me, me, as it should be. There are numerous reasons why people shop for clothes, doesn&#039;t always have to do with the opposite sex.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here looking for the study that discounted this stupid study. I thought someone had done that. Didn&#8217;t they?<br />
I love shopping for shoes and clothes but I don&#8217;t think it has anything to do with rivalry or my estrous cycles. Its actually a gradual increase in self-acceptance and acceptance of by body-shape, and now I want to dress it in stuff that&#8217;ll flatter my shape, not hide it. It&#8217;s all about me, me, me, as it should be. There are numerous reasons why people shop for clothes, doesn&#8217;t always have to do with the opposite sex.</p>
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		By: DuWayne		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/24/why-do-women-shop/#comment-522269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DuWayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  Waders were suggested by a couple of photographers who are regulars in the gorge.  There is actually plenty of dry rock when you get back far enough, there is just about 300 yards or so that is always wet.  All of that is hearsay though, as the only time I have been back there is early summer while the water levels were still high.  At that point there was pretty much nothing you could stand on that wasn&#039;t submerged.  The only way back at that point is swimming and that, only if you&#039;re a rather strong swimmer and know to stick close to the walls.

In the fall the water level only gets up to about 3.5&#039; or so and the areas that have a lot of drag (except for at the fall itself) are too shallow to be a problem.

I really, &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; appreciate the warning though, because there are a couple of falls that I wanted to explore where that would definitely be a problem.  Though I imagine that the DNR folks would also have mentioned it and I always discuss my adventures with them.  But that isn&#039;t certain and I honestly wouldn&#039;t have thought much of it, though it makes sense now that you mention it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Waders were suggested by a couple of photographers who are regulars in the gorge.  There is actually plenty of dry rock when you get back far enough, there is just about 300 yards or so that is always wet.  All of that is hearsay though, as the only time I have been back there is early summer while the water levels were still high.  At that point there was pretty much nothing you could stand on that wasn&#8217;t submerged.  The only way back at that point is swimming and that, only if you&#8217;re a rather strong swimmer and know to stick close to the walls.</p>
<p>In the fall the water level only gets up to about 3.5&#8242; or so and the areas that have a lot of drag (except for at the fall itself) are too shallow to be a problem.</p>
<p>I really, <i>really</i> appreciate the warning though, because there are a couple of falls that I wanted to explore where that would definitely be a problem.  Though I imagine that the DNR folks would also have mentioned it and I always discuss my adventures with them.  But that isn&#8217;t certain and I honestly wouldn&#8217;t have thought much of it, though it makes sense now that you mention it.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WARNING!!!! Waterfall + Waders = Certain Death.

I recommend a wet suit. ]]></description>
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<p>I recommend a wet suit. </p>
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		By: DuWayne		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/24/why-do-women-shop/#comment-522267</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DuWayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oooh!  I wish I had waders.  There is a great little offshoot in the Columbia River gorge, the Oneonta gorge, that goes back to a really pretty waterfall.  The problem with getting to it, is that you have to go through water that is blocked by large rocks and a log jam.  If you go in mid to late fall (before winter rain swells waterways) the water level is low enough to get back there, if you wear waders.  If you don&#039;t, you can get back to it, but good luck keeping any camera equipment dry.

I have hiked above that waterfall several times, as it is one of my favorite hikes.  People (including myself) try to get a look at that fall from above all the time, but it is hard to see, as you need to get close to the edge of a rather nasty, roughly 100&#039; drop.  On one occasion, I fortuitously came along when a guy had managed to get himself stuck on wet grass (it was raining) and had been desperately holding onto a rather too small tree branch for more than an hour.  I made a nasty mess of my jacket, using it as a rope to pull him up.

Hmmm...I miss Oregon.

Tatiana -

&lt;i&gt;Besides, women do need options.&lt;/i&gt;

And what about men?  I think it is patently unfair that women get all the best accessories.  Not that I want shoes to match all my skirts - colors are for clashing after all.  But still...

&lt;i&gt;Re:&quot;Sexy clothing&quot; and naked woman in bed wearing high heels (sooooo uncomfortable)- I think men invented it.&lt;/i&gt;

I never understood the whole shoes and sex thing, until I learned that there are a lot of foot fetishists out there.  &quot;Sexy&quot; clothing never really did much for me either, I think something gets lost of the moment, when you have a ten minute interlude of trying to extricate the woman or yourself from said clothes - and they aren&#039;t really all that exciting.  Simple, pretty unders are far preferable to complicated negligee.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh!  I wish I had waders.  There is a great little offshoot in the Columbia River gorge, the Oneonta gorge, that goes back to a really pretty waterfall.  The problem with getting to it, is that you have to go through water that is blocked by large rocks and a log jam.  If you go in mid to late fall (before winter rain swells waterways) the water level is low enough to get back there, if you wear waders.  If you don&#8217;t, you can get back to it, but good luck keeping any camera equipment dry.</p>
<p>I have hiked above that waterfall several times, as it is one of my favorite hikes.  People (including myself) try to get a look at that fall from above all the time, but it is hard to see, as you need to get close to the edge of a rather nasty, roughly 100&#8242; drop.  On one occasion, I fortuitously came along when a guy had managed to get himself stuck on wet grass (it was raining) and had been desperately holding onto a rather too small tree branch for more than an hour.  I made a nasty mess of my jacket, using it as a rope to pull him up.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;I miss Oregon.</p>
<p>Tatiana &#8211;</p>
<p><i>Besides, women do need options.</i></p>
<p>And what about men?  I think it is patently unfair that women get all the best accessories.  Not that I want shoes to match all my skirts &#8211; colors are for clashing after all.  But still&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Re:&#8221;Sexy clothing&#8221; and naked woman in bed wearing high heels (sooooo uncomfortable)- I think men invented it.</i></p>
<p>I never understood the whole shoes and sex thing, until I learned that there are a lot of foot fetishists out there.  &#8220;Sexy&#8221; clothing never really did much for me either, I think something gets lost of the moment, when you have a ten minute interlude of trying to extricate the woman or yourself from said clothes &#8211; and they aren&#8217;t really all that exciting.  Simple, pretty unders are far preferable to complicated negligee.</p>
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		By: khan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/24/why-do-women-shop/#comment-522266</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you include the warm fuzzy slippers, I have 5 pair (no heels). Shall stay barefoot (except for errands) until it drops below 60F.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you include the warm fuzzy slippers, I have 5 pair (no heels). Shall stay barefoot (except for errands) until it drops below 60F.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I just bought a suit. I imagined myself in the role of wearing a suit.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just bought a suit. I imagined myself in the role of wearing a suit.  </p>
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		By: Tatiana		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/24/why-do-women-shop/#comment-522264</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatiana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shopping is a kind of role playing. You try different clothing - see yourself in different roles, you end up buying.
Besides, women do need options. Sexy clothes for the &quot;ovulating&quot; days, and sweat suits for the rest of the month, etc. And a pair of matching shoes to every dress they own.

Re:&quot;Sexy clothing&quot; and naked woman in bed wearing high heels (sooooo uncomfortable)- I think men invented it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shopping is a kind of role playing. You try different clothing &#8211; see yourself in different roles, you end up buying.<br />
Besides, women do need options. Sexy clothes for the &#8220;ovulating&#8221; days, and sweat suits for the rest of the month, etc. And a pair of matching shoes to every dress they own.</p>
<p>Re:&#8221;Sexy clothing&#8221; and naked woman in bed wearing high heels (sooooo uncomfortable)- I think men invented it.</p>
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		By: Jake		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/08/24/why-do-women-shop/#comment-522263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another apparently shoeless woman checking in here:
1 pair runners
1 pair NB black walkers
1 pair winter boots
1 pair hiking boots
1 pair sporty sandals
1 pair presentable sandals

6 pairs, no heels. Even when you factor in my plan to buy myself a pair of Vibram Five Fingers, it&#039;s still considerably fewer that A nony nony.  I think sexist-assumption-man is sexist.

Re: shopping.  I didn&#039;t read the source because Evo-psych just makes me want to throw things, but did the study cite any evidence that women actually do shop more than men?  What about women who don&#039;t like shopping, did they investigate that, clearly perverse (eyeroll), phenomenon?  What about women who don&#039;t live in rich, Western countries?  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another apparently shoeless woman checking in here:<br />
1 pair runners<br />
1 pair NB black walkers<br />
1 pair winter boots<br />
1 pair hiking boots<br />
1 pair sporty sandals<br />
1 pair presentable sandals</p>
<p>6 pairs, no heels. Even when you factor in my plan to buy myself a pair of Vibram Five Fingers, it&#8217;s still considerably fewer that A nony nony.  I think sexist-assumption-man is sexist.</p>
<p>Re: shopping.  I didn&#8217;t read the source because Evo-psych just makes me want to throw things, but did the study cite any evidence that women actually do shop more than men?  What about women who don&#8217;t like shopping, did they investigate that, clearly perverse (eyeroll), phenomenon?  What about women who don&#8217;t live in rich, Western countries?  </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate:  Great.  Now we can move on to something interesting. Why do women barf???? Probably that study would not be done by a marketing company.  

By the way, there are important implications.  Say you are target.  You would want to position the sexy clothing in relation to objects related to the menstrual cycle.  Or, say, pregnancy test kits. I&#039;m not sure how this would all work, but for enough consulting money I&#039;ll think of something.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate:  Great.  Now we can move on to something interesting. Why do women barf???? Probably that study would not be done by a marketing company.  </p>
<p>By the way, there are important implications.  Say you are target.  You would want to position the sexy clothing in relation to objects related to the menstrual cycle.  Or, say, pregnancy test kits. I&#8217;m not sure how this would all work, but for enough consulting money I&#8217;ll think of something.  </p>
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