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	Comments on: The French are about to Ban the Veil	</title>
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		By: QuranTutor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[QuranTutor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wearing veil is something which should be left on personal choice. If a women wants to ware a veil, she should be allowed. On the other hand if she does not want to ware it nobody should force her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wearing veil is something which should be left on personal choice. If a women wants to ware a veil, she should be allowed. On the other hand if she does not want to ware it nobody should force her.</p>
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		By: helicene13		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[helicene13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is not about religion, it is about assimilation. The veil has been increasingly worn since sept 11, 2001. By doing this the Muslim immigrants in Western Europe show off their unwillingness to be part of the society that welcomes them. The veil is essentially an attempt to segregate Muslims from the rest of the society.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not about religion, it is about assimilation. The veil has been increasingly worn since sept 11, 2001. By doing this the Muslim immigrants in Western Europe show off their unwillingness to be part of the society that welcomes them. The veil is essentially an attempt to segregate Muslims from the rest of the society.</p>
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		By: kuwaitya		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/13/the-french-are-about-to-ban-th/#comment-520526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kuwaitya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kudos to the banning of the veil!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kudos to the banning of the veil!</p>
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		By: BrianX		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/13/the-french-are-about-to-ban-th/#comment-520525</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not entirely sure what to say except that the French culture seems to be somewhat hostile towards religion in general...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure what to say except that the French culture seems to be somewhat hostile towards religion in general&#8230;</p>
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		By: DuWayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DuWayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phosphate - 

That is about the biggest load of xenophobic, fallacious bullshit I have seen all month.  Are you really that narrow minded and fucking stupid?

I am an atheist.  I have no interest in supporting Islam and certainly no interest in living anywhere in the Islamic world.  Your statement is rather like telling a U.S. American to leave the country, if they don&#039;t approve of bullshit.

What I do have an interest in, is supporting freedom of expression and the freedom of women to wear what they will.  If what they &lt;i&gt;wish&lt;/i&gt; to wear, is a veil, I support their right to do so.  I have issues with women being forced to wear such bullshit and would support a law that at least attempted to prevent coercion to do so, understanding that such a law would be exceedingly difficult to enforce.  

I am just as keen on supporting the right of women to go topless in the same places it is appropriate for men to.  For that matter, I am rather keen on taking that further and supporting the right of people in my country to hang out at beach or pool completely naked.  I am also dead against fucking blasphemy laws and any law that provides religion with an exemption from laws that everyone else is required to follow.  

I just don&#039;t happen to be a fucking hypocrite when it comes to my belief in liberty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phosphate &#8211; </p>
<p>That is about the biggest load of xenophobic, fallacious bullshit I have seen all month.  Are you really that narrow minded and fucking stupid?</p>
<p>I am an atheist.  I have no interest in supporting Islam and certainly no interest in living anywhere in the Islamic world.  Your statement is rather like telling a U.S. American to leave the country, if they don&#8217;t approve of bullshit.</p>
<p>What I do have an interest in, is supporting freedom of expression and the freedom of women to wear what they will.  If what they <i>wish</i> to wear, is a veil, I support their right to do so.  I have issues with women being forced to wear such bullshit and would support a law that at least attempted to prevent coercion to do so, understanding that such a law would be exceedingly difficult to enforce.  </p>
<p>I am just as keen on supporting the right of women to go topless in the same places it is appropriate for men to.  For that matter, I am rather keen on taking that further and supporting the right of people in my country to hang out at beach or pool completely naked.  I am also dead against fucking blasphemy laws and any law that provides religion with an exemption from laws that everyone else is required to follow.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t happen to be a fucking hypocrite when it comes to my belief in liberty.</p>
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		By: Dunc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dunc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Wandering around in a veil negatively affects how everybody looks upon the wearer: they&#039;re no longer an individual, just another, interchangeable woman.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d take these sorts of arguments more seriously if the people advancing them objected more frequently to the forms of objectification practised by &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; culture. But of course high heels, tube tops and miniskirts are a &lt;i&gt;completely&lt;/i&gt; different matter, which women make fully free and informed choices to wear...

&lt;blockquote&gt;NO ONE should be allowed to walk around in public with something covering their face as it hides their identitym, and in this age of terrorism this is dangerous. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have a full beard, and I normally wear sunglasses and a broad-brimmed hat. Got a problem with that, or is it OK &#039;cos I is white and you can see my nose?

&lt;blockquote&gt;And in our surveillance society, the burqa completely defeats CCTV.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mandatory RFID chips for everybody it is then (see above comment re: beard etc). Quit beating about the bush - if you want everybody&#039;s every movement tracked, (a) come out and say so, and (b) propose a system that will actually work. Otherwise you&#039;re just bullshitting.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wandering around in a veil negatively affects how everybody looks upon the wearer: they&#8217;re no longer an individual, just another, interchangeable woman.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d take these sorts of arguments more seriously if the people advancing them objected more frequently to the forms of objectification practised by <i>our</i> culture. But of course high heels, tube tops and miniskirts are a <i>completely</i> different matter, which women make fully free and informed choices to wear&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>NO ONE should be allowed to walk around in public with something covering their face as it hides their identitym, and in this age of terrorism this is dangerous. </p></blockquote>
<p>I have a full beard, and I normally wear sunglasses and a broad-brimmed hat. Got a problem with that, or is it OK &#8216;cos I is white and you can see my nose?</p>
<blockquote><p>And in our surveillance society, the burqa completely defeats CCTV.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mandatory RFID chips for everybody it is then (see above comment re: beard etc). Quit beating about the bush &#8211; if you want everybody&#8217;s every movement tracked, (a) come out and say so, and (b) propose a system that will actually work. Otherwise you&#8217;re just bullshitting.</p>
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		By: thomthumb84		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomthumb84]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wrote a piece against banning the veil a while ago. If your interested you can read it here: http://tinyurl.com/34dv9eo

I think it is an attack on freedom of expression by a society fearful of change or any threat to &#039;national identity&#039; (whatever that is...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a piece against banning the veil a while ago. If your interested you can read it here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/34dv9eo" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/34dv9eo</a></p>
<p>I think it is an attack on freedom of expression by a society fearful of change or any threat to &#8216;national identity&#8217; (whatever that is&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Holy Quran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Holy Quran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There should be religion freedom for every one. Banning the veil and other things like praying Namaz etc are against the human behavior. Humans are not the servants of others, everyone has his own rights and religion. Taking people away from their religion or stop them to follow their religion and culture is a very stupid act.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be religion freedom for every one. Banning the veil and other things like praying Namaz etc are against the human behavior. Humans are not the servants of others, everyone has his own rights and religion. Taking people away from their religion or stop them to follow their religion and culture is a very stupid act.</p>
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		By: Phosphate		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/13/the-french-are-about-to-ban-th/#comment-520520</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phosphate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I fully support the world wide campaign to ban burqa. Those who are in supportof of it should return to Arab states and practise the dark culture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully support the world wide campaign to ban burqa. Those who are in supportof of it should return to Arab states and practise the dark culture.</p>
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		By: monson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[good for the French!  But,  what will the right wing in the U.S. say now?  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good for the French!  But,  what will the right wing in the U.S. say now?  </p>
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