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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520181</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Are you saying that there is nothing that scienceblogs can do to make this right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure they can. Issue a mea culpa, kick them to the curb. Next time, involve the existing bloggers in the decision.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are you saying that there is nothing that scienceblogs can do to make this right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure they can. Issue a mea culpa, kick them to the curb. Next time, involve the existing bloggers in the decision.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rob, I&#039;m not sure if I get your meaning.  Are you saying that there is nothing that scienceblogs can do to make this right?  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I&#8217;m not sure if I get your meaning.  Are you saying that there is nothing that scienceblogs can do to make this right?  </p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(I posted a response similar to this in the Pepsi blog responding to one of your comments. I didn&#039;t cut and paste it, so this isn&#039;t exact. Let&#039;s see if it shows up...)

Sorry Greg, I can&#039;t agree with your wait and see attitude. If the person in charge of the blog was someone from R&amp;D, sure. PR, not a chance.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I posted a response similar to this in the Pepsi blog responding to one of your comments. I didn&#8217;t cut and paste it, so this isn&#8217;t exact. Let&#8217;s see if it shows up&#8230;)</p>
<p>Sorry Greg, I can&#8217;t agree with your wait and see attitude. If the person in charge of the blog was someone from R&#038;D, sure. PR, not a chance.</p>
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		By: JohnV		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520178</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See Isis there&#039;s a silver lining in every cloud!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Isis there&#8217;s a silver lining in every cloud!</p>
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		By: Isis the Scientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520177</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Isis the Scientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait. I&#039;m sorry.  I can&#039;t get past the first paragraph.  Did you just say that you agree with me?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait. I&#8217;m sorry.  I can&#8217;t get past the first paragraph.  Did you just say that you agree with me?</p>
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		By: JohnV		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520176</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it very amusing/depressing that 1 ScienceBlogger who is &quot;taking a hiatus&quot; over this also blogs at Huffington Post.  Because, apparently blogging somewhere that pushes a very strong anti-vaccine, anti-science pro-ignorance agenda is a-ok but elsewhere if PepsiCo sponsors a blog IT IS JUST TOO GREAT AN INSULT TO BEAR.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very amusing/depressing that 1 ScienceBlogger who is &#8220;taking a hiatus&#8221; over this also blogs at Huffington Post.  Because, apparently blogging somewhere that pushes a very strong anti-vaccine, anti-science pro-ignorance agenda is a-ok but elsewhere if PepsiCo sponsors a blog IT IS JUST TOO GREAT AN INSULT TO BEAR.</p>
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		By: ponderingfool		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520175</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ponderingfool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For those wondering what the current Food Frontiers looks like:
http://foodfrontiers.pepsicoblogs.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those wondering what the current Food Frontiers looks like:<br />
<a href="http://foodfrontiers.pepsicoblogs.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://foodfrontiers.pepsicoblogs.com/</a></p>
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		By: RBH		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520174</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RBH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, a few hours ago you wrote&lt;blockquote&gt;If you look at the Pepsi Food Frontiers Blog you will see that it now says &quot;ADVERTORIAL&quot; along the top of the blog. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Not any more.  That&#039;s apparently gone now.

I&#039;m very glad that we at Panda&#039;s Thumb decided not to go with ScienceBlogs some years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, a few hours ago you wrote</p>
<blockquote><p>If you look at the Pepsi Food Frontiers Blog you will see that it now says &#8220;ADVERTORIAL&#8221; along the top of the blog. </p></blockquote>
<p>Not any more.  That&#8217;s apparently gone now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very glad that we at Panda&#8217;s Thumb decided not to go with ScienceBlogs some years ago.</p>
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		By: E.V.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520173</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And it is &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/2010/07/an_egoistic_perspective_on_the.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; illuminated&lt;/a&gt;
 Thanks for the &quot;fuck you&quot;, I always know when I&#039;ve yanked someone&#039;s chain juuuust right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it is <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/2010/07/an_egoistic_perspective_on_the.php" rel="nofollow"> illuminated</a><br />
 Thanks for the &#8220;fuck you&#8221;, I always know when I&#8217;ve yanked someone&#8217;s chain juuuust right.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/07/the-pepsi-maneno-further-thoug/#comment-520172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Um, did someone at Seed drop you a line Greg or did you just suddenly dismiss the blurring of the lines between advertising and propaganda/Corporate shilling via association with credible science minded bloggers?&lt;/em&gt;

Fuck you too.  There is no way you can say that and have read what I&#039;ve written.  And yes, someone did drop someone a line.  I dropped Adam Bly a line, as did many other sciencebloggers.  

I&#039;m simply pointing out that this is not a black and white situation.  We did not go from a non-profit open access journal to an evil corporate run entity. What we saw here was a screwup (that is getting fixed) not black helicopters coming down from the heavens.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Um, did someone at Seed drop you a line Greg or did you just suddenly dismiss the blurring of the lines between advertising and propaganda/Corporate shilling via association with credible science minded bloggers?</em></p>
<p>Fuck you too.  There is no way you can say that and have read what I&#8217;ve written.  And yes, someone did drop someone a line.  I dropped Adam Bly a line, as did many other sciencebloggers.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m simply pointing out that this is not a black and white situation.  We did not go from a non-profit open access journal to an evil corporate run entity. What we saw here was a screwup (that is getting fixed) not black helicopters coming down from the heavens.  </p>
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