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	Comments on: HuffPo Religion and Science: the stupidest thing I&#8217;ve read on the internet all morning	</title>
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		By: mercurianferret		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/06/huffpo-religion-and-science-th/#comment-519696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mercurianferret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having grown up around Asia, I am always tempted to take on fundamentalist Christians not on their arguments against evolution, but rather with competing religious Truths from other places in the world. I imagine pummeling them with the Truth that all of existence is merely a dream of Brahma, including their faith in a Christian God, or something.

Once you shatter their belief in their paltry little dreamed up god, you might be able to work on evolution.

Or entrench the fundies even further.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having grown up around Asia, I am always tempted to take on fundamentalist Christians not on their arguments against evolution, but rather with competing religious Truths from other places in the world. I imagine pummeling them with the Truth that all of existence is merely a dream of Brahma, including their faith in a Christian God, or something.</p>
<p>Once you shatter their belief in their paltry little dreamed up god, you might be able to work on evolution.</p>
<p>Or entrench the fundies even further.</p>
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		By: qzl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qzl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 04:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never been comfortable with the concept of believing &quot;in&quot; something. I&#039;d much rather believe &quot;that&quot; something. When someone says they believe &quot;in&quot; something it seems to mean that they believe that:
- it exists
- it is &quot;good&quot;
- i have chosen this belief on no evidence, but will defend it to death
- if you don&#039;t believe &quot;in&quot; it you are bad]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been comfortable with the concept of believing &#8220;in&#8221; something. I&#8217;d much rather believe &#8220;that&#8221; something. When someone says they believe &#8220;in&#8221; something it seems to mean that they believe that:<br />
&#8211; it exists<br />
&#8211; it is &#8220;good&#8221;<br />
&#8211; i have chosen this belief on no evidence, but will defend it to death<br />
&#8211; if you don&#8217;t believe &#8220;in&#8221; it you are bad</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 02:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Russell: I assure you that my colleagues in anthropology have provided ample opportunity for embarrassment at levels far exceeding those represented in the present discussion! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell: I assure you that my colleagues in anthropology have provided ample opportunity for embarrassment at levels far exceeding those represented in the present discussion! </p>
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		By: Charles Evo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Evo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 02:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems that Knick has confused Darwin with  Heraclitus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that Knick has confused Darwin with  Heraclitus.</p>
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		By: Bill James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 02:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Why should it be so hard to believe that biological change over time is also God&#039;s process, God&#039;s creation? God is the source, the &quot;author and finisher,&quot; of all life, and He used and is still using the processes of change to achieve His plan and purpose: biological change as well as spiritual change.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So the beatings will continue, until morale improves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;Why should it be so hard to believe that biological change over time is also God&#8217;s process, God&#8217;s creation? God is the source, the &#8220;author and finisher,&#8221; of all life, and He used and is still using the processes of change to achieve His plan and purpose: biological change as well as spiritual change.&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>So the beatings will continue, until morale improves.</p>
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		By: Dan J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Education for the fundies has its place, but I prefer scorn, derision, ridicule, and marginalization. They&#039;re much more fun.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education for the fundies has its place, but I prefer scorn, derision, ridicule, and marginalization. They&#8217;re much more fun.</p>
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		By: Tony Sidaway		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Sidaway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People are still trying to educate the fundies, but the obvious way to do that is to teach evolution as part of biology in school, with proper teachers and no nonsense.  They fight against that like wildcats.  It doesn&#039;t take a genius to work out why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are still trying to educate the fundies, but the obvious way to do that is to teach evolution as part of biology in school, with proper teachers and no nonsense.  They fight against that like wildcats.  It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to work out why.</p>
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		By: Russell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No doubt, Laden is feeling some degree of collegial embarrassment: Knick has his Ph.D. in anthropology. ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt, Laden is feeling some degree of collegial embarrassment: Knick has his Ph.D. in anthropology. 😉</p>
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		By: Phillip IV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillip IV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If we strip evolution of all the baggage added to it by detractors and adherents, it is a very simple philosophical idea: Things Change.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A bizarre oversimplification - and the real sad thing is, he has nevertheless already lost the fundies at that very point. They don&#039;t believe in change - on any of several levels.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If we strip evolution of all the baggage added to it by detractors and adherents, it is a very simple philosophical idea: Things Change.</p></blockquote>
<p>A bizarre oversimplification &#8211; and the real sad thing is, he has nevertheless already lost the fundies at that very point. They don&#8217;t believe in change &#8211; on any of several levels.</p>
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		By: Birger Johansson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/07/06/huffpo-religion-and-science-th/#comment-519687</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Birger Johansson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am in two minds about this. On one hand, I want to cut the Knick fellow some slack, since he wants to drag the fundies closer towards, if not twenty-first century thinking, at least the nineteenth century level of understanding.
On the other hand, wrong is wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in two minds about this. On one hand, I want to cut the Knick fellow some slack, since he wants to drag the fundies closer towards, if not twenty-first century thinking, at least the nineteenth century level of understanding.<br />
On the other hand, wrong is wrong.</p>
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