Comments on: YNH Meltdown Updates (and, WTF Zuska?)

By: ERV

ERV — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:38:15 +0000

Hitch– Hidden under all this trans-literation are incredibly literal people. They couldn’t even get the joke when I employed their own satirical devices. I would have been up for a multi-layered riff, but not possible. The minds are too rigid, and too out there to be right and find a new target to stereotype.

The descriptor you are looking for is stupid.

Which is why ‘SciBlogs short-bus’, despite its controversy, is an infinitely more appropriate and descriptive label than the awkward, nerdy, niche-joke, ‘Kliqueons’.

*crosses arms in the you-know-Im-right pose*

By: becca

becca — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:14:42 +0000

My bad if the graph is too esoteric to be funny. The relevant issue is that in this admittedly simplified model, is that the relevant independent variable is “who you are” not “how you behave” (of course, in complicated reality *both* “who” and “how” go into our calculations when we think about who is being a bully; but there are different ways of considering ‘who’- ideally, the fact we are familiar with someone, and trust them, should not weigh overmuch into determining whether they have power that can be abused)

By: Mike Haubrich

Mike Haubrich — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:54:22 +0000

Yes, folks, Comrade Physioprof is willing to tell YOU how to not be a sexist bastard, while at the same time taking away a woman’s name while telling her how to act and what to say and not say.

I suspect that Comrade Physioprof fancies himself a Loki.

By: Hitch

Hitch — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:30:59 +0000

I’m all for sub-context. I’m weary of loose connections, because sometime no connection can be constructed to look like a loose connection.

That’s why I am post-structural not structural. Sometimes we impose the structures we want to see. I’m not saying this is the case here, I don’t have any way to know. But I think you get the sense of what I mean.

I indeed to not understand the graph. But if I have to study 2 months worth of comments, that may be too much on my time availability just now.

By: becca

becca — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:26:21 +0000

Hitch- have you been reading GeekMommyProf’s blog, Isis, Zuska, and Jason over at The Thoughtful Animal for the past month or two? If so, and you don’t understand my graph, I’ll be happy to discuss things. If not, then maybe you should be open to the idea that what appear to be ‘loose and improper connections’ are simply *highly context dependent* in a setting where you, personally, are unfamiliar with the context?

By: Hitch

Hitch — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:11:28 +0000

Can I get the quote were anybody has called someone a bully because they said that calling a person stinky has political implications? Or is this just demagoguery where people make loose and improper connections again?

By: becca the amazing graphing lizard

becca the amazing graphing lizard — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:30:43 +0000

Here, I graph for you: http://cheezburger.com/View/3709374464

By: Comrade PhysioProf

Comrade PhysioProf — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:49:38 +0000

Dude, I turned EIGHT this year, and you missed my fucking birthday party and didn’t give me a present! {pout}

By: Hitch

Hitch — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:55:45 +0000

The persistent mocking is the main thing for me over there. Mocking is fine if it is mutually understood as a joke. If it’s just a way to be right and denigrate, it is indeed a type of bullying.

Sadly in our society very few people can give clear definitions where the boundary is between a joke (yes it can be depricating and worse even, if understood in the right context by all parties) and bullying (here the goal is to use the joke to actually demean the other side).

Mockery in Zuska’s blog is used to demean. I thought they had a real honest joking culture, so I tried to approach it with humor. But no. Under a very shallow surface, they are dead serious. Laughing at the other to defend oneself.

Exactly like the nastier cliques we may have seen in school. Lots of in-group reinforcement and out-group derision. And when people have any criticism, they are very quick to be offended and exhibit reactive aggressive behavior, assuming the worst possible intentions in the other.

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:42:45 +0000

A little background on “Communication Is Not Your Field” …

Frequent GLB Commenter, any my co-blogger at Quichemoraine.com and the writer of Almost Diamonds blog (at blogspot) Stephanie Zvan made a remark about communication during one of these endless backs and forth with CPP/Isis/Whomever (collectively dubbed The Kliqueons because they form a Clique). Just about that time in that conversation CPP had run out of things to say, so like most seven year olds, he chose to say “Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah” and his form of that was to refer to Stephanie as “Communication is your field” or some variant of that since.

Yes, folks, Comrade Physioprof is willing to tell YOU how to not be a sexist bastard, while at the same time taking away a woman’s name while telling her how to act and what to say and not say.