Comments on: Every time a skeptic tells a lie, a blog somewhere dies https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/ Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:13:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: Paul W. https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519421 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:13:17 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519421 I’ve been wondering how many of the Intersuction’s resident trolls were the same person as Milton C since before the YNH blog existed.

I had a number of experiences over there being tag teamed by evasive, sniping, misrepresenting “commenters,” who’d take turns to do a sort of collective Gish Gallop. (Typically not bothering to address my refutations of what “another” person just accused me or a prominent New Atheist of, and just launching into another accusatory diatribe.) Some of that could just be sniping assholes being sniping assholes, but I’m pretty sure there was some sock puppeting going on.

(I asked “William” about his identities at The Intersection, in the aforelinked “Curious Case” thread over at B&W.)

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519420 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:46:41 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519420 Paul, I was thinking something similar.

]]> By: Paul https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519419 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:54:30 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519419

In other words, Paul, had you considered the possibility that William from Alabama might have been using multiple pseudonyms (like “Milton C.”) around the Web before starting his own “YNH” blog?

That’s what I was pointing out, yes. One of Mooney’s comment trolls decided to take a logical next step and emulate their idol. Because lying and deceiving is ok as long as you’re “helping” make science more acceptable or less threatening to religious people (and I liked the post you linked, Abbie).

…or perhaps I’m reading too much into it. But it was interesting and not all that surprising that YNH was at The Interdungeon before opening his blog.

]]> By: Dave W. https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519418 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:03:56 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519418 New evidence that Milton C. is YNH:

http://thebuddhaisnotserious.wordpress.com/2010/06/19/the-curious-case-of-the-youre-not-helping-blog/#comment-290

]]> By: Greg Laden greg@gregladen.com https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519417 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:45:36 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519417 Regarding Milton: What this tells us is simply that William is Milton.

But, no, wait, I kind of promised to leave Will alone.

But if Will is Milton, then I don’t have to do that becasue that was just Milton telling a lie again.

When Al Gore invented the World Wide Web I don’t think he was thinking of “The wicked web we weave.” But that seems to be how this one came out.

]]> By: Raven https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519416 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:59:30 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519416 In other words, Paul, had you considered the possibility that William from Alabama might have been using multiple pseudonyms (like “Milton C.”) around the Web before starting his own “YNH” blog?

]]> By: Raven https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519415 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:51:02 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519415

Oedipus, you said Milton C. is a sockpuppet for YNH? He’s been on the Intersection comment section since some time late 2009 based on some quick googling (which I think is longer than YNH has been up).

Well, there’s proof positive of innocence! Because nobody involved in YNH could possibly ever have posted anything before YNH was up!

]]> By: ERV https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519414 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:50:50 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519414

Paul– Oedipus, you said Milton C. is a sockpuppet for YNH? He’s been on the Intersection comment section since some time late 2009 based on some quick googling (which I think is longer than YNH has been up). I suppose I wouldn’t be surprising if it started there — their comment threads have little in common aside from hating New Atheists.

**cough**

Frankenstein tried to take responsibility for his monster.

…

*blink*

]]> By: Stewart https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519413 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:13:05 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519413 As I just said over at Oedipus’s thread, nobody seemed a more obvious sock to me than Milton C. I’m not an Intersection frequenter, so couldn’t comment on that directly, but I can also see no reason why someone couldn’t have invented him to comment there and then “spun him off” to star as top sock of his own blog. The fact that he made earlier appearances elsewhere would only be an asset, as they could be used to dispel any sock allegations.

]]> By: Hitch https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519412 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:18:47 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/06/28/every-time-a-skeptic-tells-a-l/#comment-519412 Oedipus, I’ll poke around the zip. Some things still don’t make sense to me. I’m sure you are right about Milton C., I just wanted to confirm so I don’t have to cross-check that part.

The Intersection’s thing is what I’m interested in.

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