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		By: Joseph		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HEY! I&#039;m A MONKEY!]]></description>
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		By: Lucy Downer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucy Downer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[go away.. im a monkey!!!!!]]></description>
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		By: Apid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a amazing write-up.]]></description>
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		By: Computer Repair Altrincham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Computer Repair Altrincham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was a beneficial workout for me to go through your webpage. It definitely stretches the limits with the mind when you go through very good info and make an effort to interpret it properly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a beneficial workout for me to go through your webpage. It definitely stretches the limits with the mind when you go through very good info and make an effort to interpret it properly</p>
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		By: Computer Repair Altrincham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Computer Repair Altrincham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was a beneficial workout for me to go through your webpage. It definitely stretches the limits with the mind when you go through very good info and make an effort to interpret it properly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a beneficial workout for me to go through your webpage. It definitely stretches the limits with the mind when you go through very good info and make an effort to interpret it properly</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim, I&#039;m famliar with this argument.  At face value, this argument conflicts with the PREDICTIONS of our argument, but none of the facts.  This leaves us in a difficult situation.  

One explanation (other than a misinterpretation of the anatomy) is that the chimp-human split is earlier than  has recently been thought. There is good evidence for this. That maybe easier to believe than that gorill-chimp body plans  evolved twice. 

Another explanation is that there was a greater diversity of hominoids than previously thought (not a suprise) and that among them there was a greater diversity of locomotory patterns.  

Along with this last bit, one can note that the difference in the overall anatomy of an early asutralopith and a modern chimp is very modest except in a few areas. The &quot;human like&quot; walking of early austrlopiths pushed by White, Lovejoy and Leakey  is believed by a limited range of anatomists and is predicted, frankly, by  where one works, what permits are needed, funding sources, (i.e. the usual tribal factors)  more than by the measurements of the bones. 

I&#039;m not at all interested in closing off the possibility that the LCA was more human like in locomotion that otherwise thought.  I am, in fact, one of those people who suggested this at great risk to myself at conferences, etc., years back. I&#039;m just not convinced of two things: a) That this evidence is being interpreted right and b) that a semi-bipedal positional behavior  is all that important in an earl hominoid.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I&#8217;m famliar with this argument.  At face value, this argument conflicts with the PREDICTIONS of our argument, but none of the facts.  This leaves us in a difficult situation.  </p>
<p>One explanation (other than a misinterpretation of the anatomy) is that the chimp-human split is earlier than  has recently been thought. There is good evidence for this. That maybe easier to believe than that gorill-chimp body plans  evolved twice. </p>
<p>Another explanation is that there was a greater diversity of hominoids than previously thought (not a suprise) and that among them there was a greater diversity of locomotory patterns.  </p>
<p>Along with this last bit, one can note that the difference in the overall anatomy of an early asutralopith and a modern chimp is very modest except in a few areas. The &#8220;human like&#8221; walking of early austrlopiths pushed by White, Lovejoy and Leakey  is believed by a limited range of anatomists and is predicted, frankly, by  where one works, what permits are needed, funding sources, (i.e. the usual tribal factors)  more than by the measurements of the bones. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not at all interested in closing off the possibility that the LCA was more human like in locomotion that otherwise thought.  I am, in fact, one of those people who suggested this at great risk to myself at conferences, etc., years back. I&#8217;m just not convinced of two things: a) That this evidence is being interpreted right and b) that a semi-bipedal positional behavior  is all that important in an earl hominoid.  </p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Take a look at this, particularly comment by Lovejoy in second to last paragraph. The idea that chimps are just like (almost, OK) like the LCA, is not universally supported.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100621151119.htm

Thomersons came from England.  Why are there still Thomersons in England?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this, particularly comment by Lovejoy in second to last paragraph. The idea that chimps are just like (almost, OK) like the LCA, is not universally supported.<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100621151119.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100621151119.htm</a></p>
<p>Thomersons came from England.  Why are there still Thomersons in England?</p>
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		By: Your Mammy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Your Mammy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No.]]></description>
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		By: bomoore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bomoore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Humans evolved from the first vertebrate that appeared during the Cambrian, 590-505 Mya. Always ask a geologist for correct answers, free of confusion.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans evolved from the first vertebrate that appeared during the Cambrian, 590-505 Mya. Always ask a geologist for correct answers, free of confusion.  </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim, it could be secies-ism in some forms, but the argument has been well argued by Wrangham and Pilbeam and even me.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, it could be secies-ism in some forms, but the argument has been well argued by Wrangham and Pilbeam and even me.  </p>
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