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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 00:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I knew somebody who knew Orson Welles.  My friend was a staff member at a place that hired him regularly.  SInce she was not important he treated her like shit. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew somebody who knew Orson Welles.  My friend was a staff member at a place that hired him regularly.  SInce she was not important he treated her like shit. </p>
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		By: MrPeach		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/05/10/constructive-v-destructive-cri/#comment-518279</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 23:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, I like the negative approach - it&#039;s much like my own view on the world. Personally I find it more honest. 
OTOH, I&#039;ll pass on both those movies, thanks.
I will, however, allocate time to read the biography I have on Orson Welles. Much positive and negative to be found there, I&#039;m sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I like the negative approach &#8211; it&#8217;s much like my own view on the world. Personally I find it more honest.<br />
OTOH, I&#8217;ll pass on both those movies, thanks.<br />
I will, however, allocate time to read the biography I have on Orson Welles. Much positive and negative to be found there, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 11:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Daily WTF is brilliant. It&#039;s like Fail blog for coders.  But it isn&#039;t all just coding, actually. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Daily WTF is brilliant. It&#8217;s like Fail blog for coders.  But it isn&#8217;t all just coding, actually. </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 11:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MrPeach: Ha!  That is a little like hearing a movie critic say &quot;Porgies II -&gt; Wow! I want to see it again, Citizen Kane -&gt; Awful movie, should be colorized anyway&quot;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrPeach: Ha!  That is a little like hearing a movie critic say &#8220;Porgies II -> Wow! I want to see it again, Citizen Kane -> Awful movie, should be colorized anyway&#8221;</p>
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		By: MrPeach		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/05/10/constructive-v-destructive-cri/#comment-518276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrPeach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 08:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;You&#039;re not helping&quot; -&gt; subscribed
&quot;Almost Diamonds&quot; -&gt; not subscribed
Thanks Greg for the (second level) recommendation!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re not helping&#8221; -> subscribed<br />
&#8220;Almost Diamonds&#8221; -> not subscribed<br />
Thanks Greg for the (second level) recommendation!</p>
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		By: melior		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 06:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See also: User Interface &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/bradster/iarchitect/errormsg.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hall of Shame&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also: User Interface <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/bradster/iarchitect/errormsg.htm" rel="nofollow">Hall of Shame</a>.</p>
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		By: melior		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/05/10/constructive-v-destructive-cri/#comment-518274</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 06:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;How do you build up a movement with destructive criticism?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s quite simple, if you&#039;re not just being pedantic.

A good example is &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedailywtf.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Daily WTF&lt;/a&gt;, which for years has been helping to teach thousands of programmers what badly-written software looks like. Of course, it helps that the consequences are so often amusing, but it is actually an excellent way to demonstrate good practices by exposing real world examples of Fail. The criticism is always snarky, and the names are changed to protect the guilty. The comments are often as instructive as the posts as others pile on. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How do you build up a movement with destructive criticism?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite simple, if you&#8217;re not just being pedantic.</p>
<p>A good example is <a href="http://thedailywtf.com/" rel="nofollow">The Daily WTF</a>, which for years has been helping to teach thousands of programmers what badly-written software looks like. Of course, it helps that the consequences are so often amusing, but it is actually an excellent way to demonstrate good practices by exposing real world examples of Fail. The criticism is always snarky, and the names are changed to protect the guilty. The comments are often as instructive as the posts as others pile on. </p>
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		By: Hank Fox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 11:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: YNH. I made a few comments there, and got some snarky replies back. It&#039;s like the authors of the site have to reply to every single post. I went away thinking they were kind of dicks. 

The issue I was replying to was their apparent need to leap into criticizing certain approaches to outspoken atheism. 

I keep thinking that when society has had about a thousand years of freedom to be unbelievers, to balance the many thousands of years of draconian religiosity, THAT will be the time to take the pulse of the atheist movement and perhaps declare that some of us are misguided in our approach. UNTIL THEN, it&#039;s way to early to declare You&#039;re Not Helping. 

They&#039;re welcome to do what they do, no doubt. But ... I lost interest in the site pretty fast. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: YNH. I made a few comments there, and got some snarky replies back. It&#8217;s like the authors of the site have to reply to every single post. I went away thinking they were kind of dicks. </p>
<p>The issue I was replying to was their apparent need to leap into criticizing certain approaches to outspoken atheism. </p>
<p>I keep thinking that when society has had about a thousand years of freedom to be unbelievers, to balance the many thousands of years of draconian religiosity, THAT will be the time to take the pulse of the atheist movement and perhaps declare that some of us are misguided in our approach. UNTIL THEN, it&#8217;s way to early to declare You&#8217;re Not Helping. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re welcome to do what they do, no doubt. But &#8230; I lost interest in the site pretty fast. </p>
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		By: NewEnglandBob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 11:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I subscribed recently to YNH and I dislike much of what I see there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I subscribed recently to YNH and I dislike much of what I see there.</p>
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