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		By: Mike Haubrich		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/20/regulation-of-private-gun-owne/#comment-517497</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[9.5 of 10 on the Poe scale, Captain patriot.  Not enough caps nor any goats on fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9.5 of 10 on the Poe scale, Captain patriot.  Not enough caps nor any goats on fire.</p>
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		By: Captain patriot		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/20/regulation-of-private-gun-owne/#comment-517496</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Coming for my guns is an act of treason against the constitution and the Republic. Only marxists are filled with hate enough to want to destroy our rights and take over. You and Darth Sidius would make good companions. You seem to think alike. 

Well, when you come and illegally take my guns, I&#039;ll just have to hunt you down and use my bow and arrow or sword. Besides, any person with knowledge of metal like I can manufacture a  well made firearm. It&#039;s not that difficult. All i have to do is cut out the metal frame. All other parts like barrels, grips, sights, rails, etc. are readily available to bulld your own firearm. Many people have chosen to custom build their own AR-15 and AK-47 arms. Parts are readily available to put togegher one.

Even is the socialist marxist America haters succeed in banning semi-autos from being sold, I am quite sure that illegal &quot;law&quot; will not cover building your ow. Technically, if you built your own, it would not fall under such an Anti-constitution law since you technically did not purchase a firearm. You only purchased &quot;spare parts&quot; for one. Maybe I just accidentally figured out how to make those parts fit together. 

Good luck banning guns.

Maybe we should ban liberals. 

I am all in favor of cracking down on socialist marxists in America. They should be rounded up and shipped off to the middle of the Congo and relased butt naked to fend for themselves. They are too dangerous to live here and have an influence over normal kids. Let&#039;s face it. We should have let McCarthy finish the job. He was right. This nation has its fair share of Soviet marxist sympathizers. TForget banning guns. If we ban socialism, our problems will be over. 

Jesus Christ will come soon and destroy all marxists and restore order to the world. Socialism will be dead. Communism will not exist. Only capitalism and normal things. I can&#039;t wait for that day to come. I hope he gives me sword and lets me in on the fun.  Are ya ready for day of the Lord? It&#039;s coming, I hope you have a fireproof suit. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming for my guns is an act of treason against the constitution and the Republic. Only marxists are filled with hate enough to want to destroy our rights and take over. You and Darth Sidius would make good companions. You seem to think alike. </p>
<p>Well, when you come and illegally take my guns, I&#8217;ll just have to hunt you down and use my bow and arrow or sword. Besides, any person with knowledge of metal like I can manufacture a  well made firearm. It&#8217;s not that difficult. All i have to do is cut out the metal frame. All other parts like barrels, grips, sights, rails, etc. are readily available to bulld your own firearm. Many people have chosen to custom build their own AR-15 and AK-47 arms. Parts are readily available to put togegher one.</p>
<p>Even is the socialist marxist America haters succeed in banning semi-autos from being sold, I am quite sure that illegal &#8220;law&#8221; will not cover building your ow. Technically, if you built your own, it would not fall under such an Anti-constitution law since you technically did not purchase a firearm. You only purchased &#8220;spare parts&#8221; for one. Maybe I just accidentally figured out how to make those parts fit together. </p>
<p>Good luck banning guns.</p>
<p>Maybe we should ban liberals. </p>
<p>I am all in favor of cracking down on socialist marxists in America. They should be rounded up and shipped off to the middle of the Congo and relased butt naked to fend for themselves. They are too dangerous to live here and have an influence over normal kids. Let&#8217;s face it. We should have let McCarthy finish the job. He was right. This nation has its fair share of Soviet marxist sympathizers. TForget banning guns. If we ban socialism, our problems will be over. </p>
<p>Jesus Christ will come soon and destroy all marxists and restore order to the world. Socialism will be dead. Communism will not exist. Only capitalism and normal things. I can&#8217;t wait for that day to come. I hope he gives me sword and lets me in on the fun.  Are ya ready for day of the Lord? It&#8217;s coming, I hope you have a fireproof suit. </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, finally, the voice of reason.  Yes, I&#039;d say that a revolver that shoots the equivalent of either shot gun shells or cannon shells is quite an achievement.

When we come to take your guns, Captain, we&#039;ll be doing it from a distance.  We&#039;ll be using one of these: http://xrl.in/560d]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, finally, the voice of reason.  Yes, I&#8217;d say that a revolver that shoots the equivalent of either shot gun shells or cannon shells is quite an achievement.</p>
<p>When we come to take your guns, Captain, we&#8217;ll be doing it from a distance.  We&#8217;ll be using one of these: <a href="http://xrl.in/560d" rel="nofollow ugc">http://xrl.in/560d</a></p>
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		By: Captain patriot		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/20/regulation-of-private-gun-owne/#comment-517494</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I don&#039;t know what kind of Soviet commie wants to ban the constitution. it seems like the U.S. laws are getting more and more restrictive and we are loosing more and more freedom - becoming like Europe - a nightmare hellhole full of crackhead dictators, asshole socialists, and bastards tyrants. 

I personally keep a .357 magnum, a 45 Long Colt, and a .38 special + P loaded at all times just in case some asshole punk wishes to intrude upon me. Can&#039;t wait to get my .41 magnum and my Taurus Judge 6.5 

In reality I hate a 9mm. They are accurate, but useless unless loaded with Hornady Critical Defense rounds or Winchester Black talons (which are illegal but if one looks hard enough in the right place can still be found). 

I prefer a caliber that will definitely do the job. There&#039;s nothing like having a .357 magnum loaded with Hornady 158 grain XTP hollow points to get the job done. 

Then again, when my ordered Judge comes in I&#039;ll have five cyclinder rounds of 2 1/2 inch .410 shotgun shells loaded with Winchester Elite PDX1 which is three copper plated disks loaded over 12 copper plated BBs. A revover that fires five rounds of .410 buckshot or 45 long colt rounds. Now a genious though of that. I prefer the Buffalo Bore 200 grain Speer rounds in 45 long Colt. They are super hot loaded and will wreak havoc on the enemy. They are capable of massive firepower and energy. I doubt if one could survive that round if they were just shot in the leg. Now, if someone could biuld a semi-auto in 45 Long Colt ... 

Can you say Magnum Research? They biuld semi-auto 50 action express, .44 magnum,. and .357 mag. Why not 45 Long colt? 

Anyway, enough about me. 

My next door neighbor hates the constition. He want to ban all guns. I repect his opinion enough that I promised not to protect him with my guns if he ever needed it.  

Do me a favor. The next time you people burn an American flag, wrap yourself in it first. 

&quot;You will never see an American flag burned at a gun show.&quot; 

Guns kill people like my computer misspells words. 

Gun control, population control, total control. A marxist nazi liberal legacy in the making. Hitler liked gun control too. It made his job much easier. makes me wonder whhy the lefty commies want my guns so much. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know what kind of Soviet commie wants to ban the constitution. it seems like the U.S. laws are getting more and more restrictive and we are loosing more and more freedom &#8211; becoming like Europe &#8211; a nightmare hellhole full of crackhead dictators, asshole socialists, and bastards tyrants. </p>
<p>I personally keep a .357 magnum, a 45 Long Colt, and a .38 special + P loaded at all times just in case some asshole punk wishes to intrude upon me. Can&#8217;t wait to get my .41 magnum and my Taurus Judge 6.5 </p>
<p>In reality I hate a 9mm. They are accurate, but useless unless loaded with Hornady Critical Defense rounds or Winchester Black talons (which are illegal but if one looks hard enough in the right place can still be found). </p>
<p>I prefer a caliber that will definitely do the job. There&#8217;s nothing like having a .357 magnum loaded with Hornady 158 grain XTP hollow points to get the job done. </p>
<p>Then again, when my ordered Judge comes in I&#8217;ll have five cyclinder rounds of 2 1/2 inch .410 shotgun shells loaded with Winchester Elite PDX1 which is three copper plated disks loaded over 12 copper plated BBs. A revover that fires five rounds of .410 buckshot or 45 long colt rounds. Now a genious though of that. I prefer the Buffalo Bore 200 grain Speer rounds in 45 long Colt. They are super hot loaded and will wreak havoc on the enemy. They are capable of massive firepower and energy. I doubt if one could survive that round if they were just shot in the leg. Now, if someone could biuld a semi-auto in 45 Long Colt &#8230; </p>
<p>Can you say Magnum Research? They biuld semi-auto 50 action express, .44 magnum,. and .357 mag. Why not 45 Long colt? </p>
<p>Anyway, enough about me. </p>
<p>My next door neighbor hates the constition. He want to ban all guns. I repect his opinion enough that I promised not to protect him with my guns if he ever needed it.  </p>
<p>Do me a favor. The next time you people burn an American flag, wrap yourself in it first. </p>
<p>&#8220;You will never see an American flag burned at a gun show.&#8221; </p>
<p>Guns kill people like my computer misspells words. </p>
<p>Gun control, population control, total control. A marxist nazi liberal legacy in the making. Hitler liked gun control too. It made his job much easier. makes me wonder whhy the lefty commies want my guns so much. </p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John again from 25 and 51.

PZ meyers has a similar policy that threatens to expose anyone who threatens him. His policy, however, is on the left side of every page. It is not buried 3/4 down his About Me page. 

Secondly, you are right in that I haven&#039;t read what comments of his didn&#039;t see the light of day. I must admit that maybe this John posted something so awful, depraved, and obscene to human decency as to warrant your threats to expose him. I fell to out of sight, out of mind.  

Lastly, I should have read all the reports about the coon rapids shooting, though I figured you would have provided the information that best backed your position. I&#039;ve read the news articles online and all, as I suspected, are virtually identical. Whaley. 73 years old. Single gun shot from .22 rifle. Intruder. Broken garage door. If I&#039;m missing some key fact, please point it out. 

I would never say the penalty for going in a house on a dare or even theft should be the death penalty. It is, however, a powerful risk. The young man that died IS a victim; not of Whaley, but his own naivete and a single, though remarkably bad, decision.

I have sympathy. I&#039;ve made mistakes in my teens including one that damn near cost me my life. I was lucky. This kid wasn&#039;t. To accuse Whaley of murderous intent, however, is just absolutely nowhere NEAR a reasonable thing to say. Again, this guy fired a single shot from the 2nd least powerful and sized round in existence. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John again from 25 and 51.</p>
<p>PZ meyers has a similar policy that threatens to expose anyone who threatens him. His policy, however, is on the left side of every page. It is not buried 3/4 down his About Me page. </p>
<p>Secondly, you are right in that I haven&#8217;t read what comments of his didn&#8217;t see the light of day. I must admit that maybe this John posted something so awful, depraved, and obscene to human decency as to warrant your threats to expose him. I fell to out of sight, out of mind.  </p>
<p>Lastly, I should have read all the reports about the coon rapids shooting, though I figured you would have provided the information that best backed your position. I&#8217;ve read the news articles online and all, as I suspected, are virtually identical. Whaley. 73 years old. Single gun shot from .22 rifle. Intruder. Broken garage door. If I&#8217;m missing some key fact, please point it out. </p>
<p>I would never say the penalty for going in a house on a dare or even theft should be the death penalty. It is, however, a powerful risk. The young man that died IS a victim; not of Whaley, but his own naivete and a single, though remarkably bad, decision.</p>
<p>I have sympathy. I&#8217;ve made mistakes in my teens including one that damn near cost me my life. I was lucky. This kid wasn&#8217;t. To accuse Whaley of murderous intent, however, is just absolutely nowhere NEAR a reasonable thing to say. Again, this guy fired a single shot from the 2nd least powerful and sized round in existence. </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mu, so your position is that the penalty for entering an abandon house on a dare is death.  Nice.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mu, so your position is that the penalty for entering an abandon house on a dare is death.  Nice.  </p>
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		By: darwinsdog		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/20/regulation-of-private-gun-owne/#comment-517491</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Three years ago this coming summer I woke up early on a Sunday morning, made coffee and sat down at the computer in the home library to check my email. My wife, son and granddaughter were still asleep. Suddenly the front door opened and a guy I&#039;d never seen before came in my house, walked past the library door and into the kitchen. I got up to ask him what he was doing but thought I&#039;d better confront him with my shotgun in my hands. So I went down to my bedroom and got my old 20 gauge / .22 over-under out from under my bed. When the guy came towards me I thumped him in the sternum with the muzzle and told him to get out of my house. I didn&#039;t cock the weapon but had my thumb on the hammer &amp; finger on the trigger. He left the house, I called the cops and together we discovered that the intruder had been systematically burglarizing the premises. He had chosen tools he thought he could pawn and had even pocketed my wife&#039;s car keys. The police arrested him later in the day and he plead guilty to a burglary charge and served time, altho he&#039;s out of prison now. I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t shoot him and I&#039;m also glad I had that shotgun and could have shot him had he lunged at me or threatened my family members. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three years ago this coming summer I woke up early on a Sunday morning, made coffee and sat down at the computer in the home library to check my email. My wife, son and granddaughter were still asleep. Suddenly the front door opened and a guy I&#8217;d never seen before came in my house, walked past the library door and into the kitchen. I got up to ask him what he was doing but thought I&#8217;d better confront him with my shotgun in my hands. So I went down to my bedroom and got my old 20 gauge / .22 over-under out from under my bed. When the guy came towards me I thumped him in the sternum with the muzzle and told him to get out of my house. I didn&#8217;t cock the weapon but had my thumb on the hammer &#038; finger on the trigger. He left the house, I called the cops and together we discovered that the intruder had been systematically burglarizing the premises. He had chosen tools he thought he could pawn and had even pocketed my wife&#8217;s car keys. The police arrested him later in the day and he plead guilty to a burglary charge and served time, altho he&#8217;s out of prison now. I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t shoot him and I&#8217;m also glad I had that shotgun and could have shot him had he lunged at me or threatened my family members. </p>
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		By: Mike Haubrich		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/20/regulation-of-private-gun-owne/#comment-517490</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s why I don&#039;t have a gun in my house.  If I am awakened or startled from sleep by a burglar, my vision would take moments to adjust to dim light.  I would be sleepy and my alertness would also take time to raise.  A gun in my hands at that moment when both my vision and my judgment are impaired would be an ineffective defense against someone who is accustomed to low light and is alert.  

If you are to shoot someone, you are to shoot to kill according to safety experts.  Wounding someone makes them more dangerous, right?  So it would take a very good shot to be able to hit someone in the heart or between the eyes in the dark, while still sleepy.  

Or else that person could take advantage of my semi-alert state and grab my gun, putting me and my housemates in worse danger.  I would rather have a pepper spray for self defense for two reasons. One, a mistaken shot at a family member or a friend would not be fatal.  Two, the intruder would be disabled until the cops arrived.

Like Stephanie, I do not live in fear that the intruders are all over the place and swarming our cities and towns looking to loot and rape the first person they find that doesn&#039;t have a handgun.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t have a gun in my house.  If I am awakened or startled from sleep by a burglar, my vision would take moments to adjust to dim light.  I would be sleepy and my alertness would also take time to raise.  A gun in my hands at that moment when both my vision and my judgment are impaired would be an ineffective defense against someone who is accustomed to low light and is alert.  </p>
<p>If you are to shoot someone, you are to shoot to kill according to safety experts.  Wounding someone makes them more dangerous, right?  So it would take a very good shot to be able to hit someone in the heart or between the eyes in the dark, while still sleepy.  </p>
<p>Or else that person could take advantage of my semi-alert state and grab my gun, putting me and my housemates in worse danger.  I would rather have a pepper spray for self defense for two reasons. One, a mistaken shot at a family member or a friend would not be fatal.  Two, the intruder would be disabled until the cops arrived.</p>
<p>Like Stephanie, I do not live in fear that the intruders are all over the place and swarming our cities and towns looking to loot and rape the first person they find that doesn&#8217;t have a handgun.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, John, thanks for the advice. 

Now, read my about page. 

Now, read ALL the newspaper reports on the event in Coon Rapids

Now, read ALL the comments that never saw the light of day from our friend.  Oh, I guess you can&#039;t.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, John, thanks for the advice. </p>
<p>Now, read my about page. </p>
<p>Now, read ALL the newspaper reports on the event in Coon Rapids</p>
<p>Now, read ALL the comments that never saw the light of day from our friend.  Oh, I guess you can&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: JohnS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Note: John is a common name. I wrote comment #25 only. 

I just read comment 49 by Greg. If I&#039;m reading this correctly, Greg...you&#039;re a jerk. Someone disagrees with you and your response is to track them down and get them fired for daring to give an opinion. If this John is being a jerk, ban him. The smugness of the &quot;highly paid consultant you see walking around&quot; is dripping. We&#039;re both liberals but I don&#039;t look down on those with less education or money than I when I want to get an extra dig in. 

Yes, some of John&#039;s comments are cruel and dumb. Responses have to have some sense of proportion. The response to jackass comment on the internet should not be to get a guy fired and lord over him your superiority. 

I&#039;m actually in disbelief. The strawmen that Bill O&#039;Reilly knocks down exist in you! An old man, cornered in his bedroom, fires a single .22 caliber shot at a young adult teenaged intruder and your characterization is &quot;nut-job waiting to off someone&quot;. This isn&#039;t even near the realm of rationality. This is Glenn Beck levels of crazy. If you or someone else were to make the iron-clad case against having a gun in the home, that doesn&#039;t speak to the morality of the individual acts talked about in the two news articles. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note: John is a common name. I wrote comment #25 only. </p>
<p>I just read comment 49 by Greg. If I&#8217;m reading this correctly, Greg&#8230;you&#8217;re a jerk. Someone disagrees with you and your response is to track them down and get them fired for daring to give an opinion. If this John is being a jerk, ban him. The smugness of the &#8220;highly paid consultant you see walking around&#8221; is dripping. We&#8217;re both liberals but I don&#8217;t look down on those with less education or money than I when I want to get an extra dig in. </p>
<p>Yes, some of John&#8217;s comments are cruel and dumb. Responses have to have some sense of proportion. The response to jackass comment on the internet should not be to get a guy fired and lord over him your superiority. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually in disbelief. The strawmen that Bill O&#8217;Reilly knocks down exist in you! An old man, cornered in his bedroom, fires a single .22 caliber shot at a young adult teenaged intruder and your characterization is &#8220;nut-job waiting to off someone&#8221;. This isn&#8217;t even near the realm of rationality. This is Glenn Beck levels of crazy. If you or someone else were to make the iron-clad case against having a gun in the home, that doesn&#8217;t speak to the morality of the individual acts talked about in the two news articles. </p>
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