Comments on: Pope, in incredible act of insensitivity, mixes up roles of victim and perp https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/ Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:51:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: best directory submission service https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517306 Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:51:27 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517306 Submission to directories for very cheap is not an issue you need. Firstly you should choose good directories submission service. Your business will become better guaranteed.

]]> By: daedalus2u https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517305 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:51:35 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517305 abb3w, the “wound” the Pope is talking about isn’t the sex abuse, the “wound” the Pope is talking about is everyone finding about the sex abuse and the cover up.

It is the disclosure of the sex abuse and the cover up that has “wounded” the church.

A few months ago, as far as the Pope was concerned, there was no “wound”, that is because all of the sex abuse and cover up was still secret.

]]> By: abb3w https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517304 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:12:11 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517304 That the wound was self-inflicted via stupidity does not mean that it isn’t a wound; it just means that caring for that wound is less important to many people than the non-self-inflicted wounds.

]]> By: daedalus2u https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517303 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:59:22 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517303 Excuse me, but from my understanding of what the Pope and the Catholic Church Hierarchy is doing and saying they do not have the capacity to understand the harm that has been done to these children. If they did understand, they would have stopped the sexual abuse of children by priests when it first started. They did not stop it. Without understanding the magnitude of the harm that has been done, how can the Pope and the Catholic Church Hierarchy figure out how to mitigate that harm?

My presumption is that they are not made of pure evil, they did not allow children to be raped by priests because they thought it was good for the children, or because they didn’t care that children would be damaged, but because they didn’t think the damage would be â??that badâ?, or that the damage couldn’t be made â??all betterâ? with just a few waves of the holy stuff. My presumption is that they are ignorant, that they have been blinded by their delusional world view into thinking that prayer and magic words can heal any injury, even the injury of priests raping children.

It clearly is narcissistic injury the Pope is feeling. Injury to his narcissistic vision of what the Catholic Church is. In the Pope’s narcissism, the injury he feels is a grievous wound, an injury the Catholic Church hierarchy feels is analogous to what the Jews feel from the Holocaust. Analogous to the antisemitism that the Catholic Church preached against the Jews for centuries. It feels like a blood libel against the Catholic Church. But it isn’t a â??blood libelâ? because it is true. Yes, the Pope does feel even more hurt because it is true, but the hurt the Pope feels is of his own making. He personally could have stopped it decades ago. He chose to not stop it. He made a bad choice.

We are supposed to fell sorry for the Pope because his delusional vision of himself as a holy person has been shattered because the lies that have been told on his behalf have been found out?

]]> By: Sean the Blogonaut https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517302 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:16:10 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517302 What concerned me most in the original article is not so much the beating around the bush by the pope and the call for justice from the Maltese leader – i think this is political posturing.

What was concerning was their joint position on secularism ie that it was a bad thing. There seems to be no understanding that the church’s cultural and legal privileges have compounded or contributed to the abuse and cover up

]]> By: Skepticop https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517301 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:48:36 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517301 Whoa. What did you do to piss these people off?

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]]> By: WTFWJD https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517300 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:23:20 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517300 Who are you going to believe, the Pope or your lying eyes?

That level of chutzpah marks a true sociopath.

]]> By: Stephanie Z https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517299 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:50:10 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517299 Damn, Virgil, that was the funniest thing I’ve read all day.

]]> By: Virgil Samms https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517298 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:20:25 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517298 It boils down to who/what he means by “the church.” You are apparently thinking he means the white male dress-clad hierarchy. It is just possible that he means the collection of a billion or so individuals who subordinate themselves to that hierarchy.

]]> By: Anonymous https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517297 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:04:06 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/04/17/pope-in-in-credible-act-of-ins/#comment-517297 The Pope had very important things on his mind; he couldn’t be distracted by the rape victims in Malta who had requested a sit-down with him. The Pope had a much higher calling, speaking out against the evils of divorce (Times of Malta, full speech, video). Divorce, along with abortion and pornography, are illegal in Malta. Never mind that the Catholic Church is also currently shielding accused pedophile priests there; that’s not important. One priest still works with children? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. A Canada-wide warrant for Rev. Godwin Scerri, last seen in Malta? Absolutely no concern.

On the lighter side, the Facebook page to save the Zobb Monument (mentioned by PZ) has created a humorous forum for dissent, including an epic poke at hypocrisy.

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