Comments on: Hate Crimes are OK in OK

By: Swami

Swami — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:50:13 +0000

One thing about these mega churches we have down here is that they know how to get the faithful out to the polls. Theyâ??re told what god likes and what god doesnâ??t like, and they vote accordingly. Thatâ??s precisely why we have the nut jobs we do in our state legislature. Another recent pearl of legislation is house bill 2780, which requires women to view an ultrasound image of the fetus prior to having an abortion. The provider is required to comment on the image and describe what it shows, and is subject to a $10,000 fine for failure to do so. The woman may turn her eyes away from the image if she so chooses (see how compassionate our legislators can be). This bill easily passed the house 87 to 7, but whatâ??s remarkable is how controversial the bill is in the general public. The fact that the vote wasnâ??t closer indicates that our legislators know exactly who put them office. These 6 legislators who voted against the hate crime bill must now go back to their constituents and explain why they voted against the laws of God. As long as the fundamentalists pick and choose our elected officials, Oklahoma will continue to be an embarrassment. As has been stated above, a number of other states are giving us a good run for the money for the coveted title of most backward, but unfortunately weâ??re in the hunt.

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:39:32 +0000

testing

By: daedalus2u

daedalus2u — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:29:05 +0000

Doesn’t the 14th Amendment put a kibosh on this? 14th Amendment reasoning that is being used to try and invalidate laws restricting firearms.

The Federal hate-crime law is written in neutral terms of sexual orientation, not in favor of one orientation or another.

By: Uncle Glenny

Uncle Glenny — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:07:42 +0000

I did not think a state could override federal law. Indeed, the entire point of federal hate crimes/non-discrimination legislation is exactly what these bozos are attempting to outlaw: having the feds come in and clean up local messes.

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:38:49 +0000

I said: “one of America’s most socially backwards states, Oklahoma. ”

Max understood: “OK Most backward State?”

I will be earmarking this comment to refer back to when people scream at me for not causing my intended meaning to materialize perfectly in the minds of others.

Now, getting back to the issue …

Max, I said “ONE OF” the most backwards, not THE most backwards. And, you have it wrong about Minnesota.

Minnesota also has Pawlenty as Governer, shame on us. But we do tend to have a fairly progressive state legislature and we tend to send an excellent delegation to DC even it is is marred at present by she who shall not be named before I’ve had my morning coffee. We are no where near the to three in being uncivilized. South Carolina beats us by a mile, for instance. North Carolina. Florida. Alabama. Mississippi. The list goes on.

OK is probably not in the top three either. But last time I checked, there were fifty states.

By: Stephanie Z

Stephanie Z — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:33:14 +0000

Max, Bachmann is pretty terrible as people go, but she has the advantage of being a singularly ineffective legislator. This legislation is likely to hurt a lot more people than she could even if she tried.

By: Max

Max — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:03:35 +0000

OK Most backward State?

That’s hard to believe. You do know that Minnesota elected Michele Bachmann? You must have read about the Texas textbook issue. Now the whole nation will be saddled with Texas textbook trash.

No, I think OK is going to have to setle for third place.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:38:42 +0000

I am totally in favor of hat crime legislation.

By: daedalus2u

daedalus2u — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:52:56 +0000

I posted a blog on the physiology behind xenophobia.

http://daedalus2u.blogspot.com/2010/03/physiology-behind-xenophobia.html

It really is about hating and by that hating enforcing a social hierarchy where the hated are at the bottom and those that preach the hate are at the top.

It isn’t about â??hating the sinâ?, it is about hating the person who is not in the in group. When members of the in group â??sinâ?, they can be forgiven because they are one of the in group. Someone who does not share the in group’s hatred is hated because they are not in the in group. Their â??sin statusâ? does not matter.

By: Mike Haubrich, FCD

Mike Haubrich, FCD — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:13:08 +0000

Not only did this stupid bill pass the Oklahoma Senate, it passed with a vote of 39-6.

The most disturbing part of this is to find that they have a specific law already in place that specifically excludes gender preference from being protected in a hate crimes bill of their own. C’mon, Okies! If you can’t hate on and beat the crap other groups, what fun is it? And do you take out your frustration in not being able to commit crimes against minorities by doubling your pummeling of gays?