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		By: CCP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/02/11/a-private-letter-to-salty-curr/#comment-514771</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2016 04:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>memories<br />
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		By: Greg Laden THREAD OPEN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden THREAD OPEN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve spoken with Paul, and as a result of that conversation, I&#039;ve withdrawn my request for an apology from him.

I&#039;ve spoken with Stephanie and I&#039;ve encouraged her to turn her thoughts on this whole thing into one of those amazing thoughtful analytical blog posts she does on this topic ... whatever this topic is exactly ... and I hope she does that.

(Hmm... maybe Paul should write a guest post somewhere on this... )

I&#039;ve made the following comment over on Pharynguala:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/never-ending_thread_reset_beca.php#comment-2275632

And now I have some important personal issues to address, but I&#039;ll be back.  Try to behave.

Or not. Whatever.  



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spoken with Paul, and as a result of that conversation, I&#8217;ve withdrawn my request for an apology from him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spoken with Stephanie and I&#8217;ve encouraged her to turn her thoughts on this whole thing into one of those amazing thoughtful analytical blog posts she does on this topic &#8230; whatever this topic is exactly &#8230; and I hope she does that.</p>
<p>(Hmm&#8230; maybe Paul should write a guest post somewhere on this&#8230; )</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made the following comment over on Pharynguala:</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/never-ending_thread_reset_beca.php#comment-2275632" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/never-ending_thread_reset_beca.php#comment-2275632</a></p>
<p>And now I have some important personal issues to address, but I&#8217;ll be back.  Try to behave.</p>
<p>Or not. Whatever.  </p>
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		By: Greg Laden THREAD CLOSED		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden THREAD CLOSED]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul, W.  I&#039;ve contacted you and asked you to provide a sincere apology to Stephanie.  I&#039;ve also indicated that you need that to be your next comment on this blog, or your most recent comment will be your last. 

I&#039;m putting that on hold now.  We&#039;ve just had (30 minutes ago) a death in the family and we need to deal with that.  The trials and tribulations, the posturing, the blaming, the bullshit on this thread is something that I am not interested in dealing with right now, so I&#039;m closing commenting.  Do not drag this conversation on to other threads on this blog.  

Paul, email me your apology and I&#039;ll post it or pass it on as appropriate.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, W.  I&#8217;ve contacted you and asked you to provide a sincere apology to Stephanie.  I&#8217;ve also indicated that you need that to be your next comment on this blog, or your most recent comment will be your last. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m putting that on hold now.  We&#8217;ve just had (30 minutes ago) a death in the family and we need to deal with that.  The trials and tribulations, the posturing, the blaming, the bullshit on this thread is something that I am not interested in dealing with right now, so I&#8217;m closing commenting.  Do not drag this conversation on to other threads on this blog.  </p>
<p>Paul, email me your apology and I&#8217;ll post it or pass it on as appropriate.  </p>
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		By: Irene		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/02/11/a-private-letter-to-salty-curr/#comment-514768</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Noid, did your friend Paul W. call you and ask you to swoop in and deflect the thread away from his over the top asinine remark? Somehow I doubt that is going to be a very effective strategy. 

But I can address your question which, I admit, I had not realized you had asked, given that you are not eactly of interest to me.  

Elaine said, as I recall, that Salty Current is not a raving anti-semite.  Do you differ in this opinion?  I agreed with Greg that Salty Current&#039;s comments do not indicate that she is an anti-semite.  Apparently you disagree with this.

Explain. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noid, did your friend Paul W. call you and ask you to swoop in and deflect the thread away from his over the top asinine remark? Somehow I doubt that is going to be a very effective strategy. </p>
<p>But I can address your question which, I admit, I had not realized you had asked, given that you are not eactly of interest to me.  </p>
<p>Elaine said, as I recall, that Salty Current is not a raving anti-semite.  Do you differ in this opinion?  I agreed with Greg that Salty Current&#8217;s comments do not indicate that she is an anti-semite.  Apparently you disagree with this.</p>
<p>Explain. </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A. Noyd, why would either of them want to have a conversation like that here and end up being called &quot;Greg&#039;s bitch&quot; too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A. Noyd, why would either of them want to have a conversation like that here and end up being called &#8220;Greg&#8217;s bitch&#8221; too?</p>
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		By: A. Noyd		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/02/11/a-private-letter-to-salty-curr/#comment-514766</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Noyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, hey, wecome back, Elaine and Irene.  Either of you want to try taking up the challenge I made of you both in #109?  See if you can actually cough up a connection between your accusations and SC&#039;s words instead of just asserting she&#039;s got problems?  See Knockgoats example in #257 if you&#039;re having trouble.  That&#039;s the sort of analysis no one here seems able to manage when it comes to anything SC said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hey, wecome back, Elaine and Irene.  Either of you want to try taking up the challenge I made of you both in #109?  See if you can actually cough up a connection between your accusations and SC&#8217;s words instead of just asserting she&#8217;s got problems?  See Knockgoats example in #257 if you&#8217;re having trouble.  That&#8217;s the sort of analysis no one here seems able to manage when it comes to anything SC said.</p>
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		By: Brian Hart		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/02/11/a-private-letter-to-salty-curr/#comment-514765</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul W. said &lt;em&gt;we should avoid referring to Stephanie as Greg&#039;s sidekick, and refer to her as Greg&#039;s bitch.&lt;/em&gt;


What are you, in fifth grade? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul W. said <em>we should avoid referring to Stephanie as Greg&#8217;s sidekick, and refer to her as Greg&#8217;s bitch.</em></p>
<p>What are you, in fifth grade? </p>
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		By: Irene		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/02/11/a-private-letter-to-salty-curr/#comment-514764</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Salty Current screams at Greg and everyone who does not overtly attack Greg for three days (or was it longer)... that makes her a bitch.

Stephanie has an ongoing argument with Paul W. that Greg seems to be utterly ignoring.  And somehow this makes Stephanie &quot;Greg&#039;s Bitch&quot; in Paul&#039;s mind.

Paul W. could use some attitude adjustment, and that might start with an apology.  

Or, as implied by Tim, we can have another round of &quot;Pharungulas&quot; jumping on Stephanie for being an unwilling victim, a hypocrite, and a lying liar.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salty Current screams at Greg and everyone who does not overtly attack Greg for three days (or was it longer)&#8230; that makes her a bitch.</p>
<p>Stephanie has an ongoing argument with Paul W. that Greg seems to be utterly ignoring.  And somehow this makes Stephanie &#8220;Greg&#8217;s Bitch&#8221; in Paul&#8217;s mind.</p>
<p>Paul W. could use some attitude adjustment, and that might start with an apology.  </p>
<p>Or, as implied by Tim, we can have another round of &#8220;Pharungulas&#8221; jumping on Stephanie for being an unwilling victim, a hypocrite, and a lying liar.  </p>
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		By: Monica		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/02/11/a-private-letter-to-salty-curr/#comment-514763</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul W. needs to be taken to the woodpile and taught a lesson.  Can I do i? Please? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul W. needs to be taken to the woodpile and taught a lesson.  Can I do i? Please? </p>
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		By: Tim D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Elaine, Paul will now tell you that he did not actually call Stephanie Greg&#039;s Bitch, but just used all those words in a sentence and you have misinterpreted. 

Paul&#039;s friends, the other Pharyngulas, will now jump on the bandwagon and insist that Stephanie must apologize for this.  If she complains about this, she will be accused of hypocrisy and dishonesty.  There will be a flurry of comments about this, blaming Greg and Stephanie for breaking the Roolz of the Intertoobs Accordin&#039; to Pharyngula.  

It does concern me a little that PZ myers does not say a word to his commenters about their behavior, and in fact, that half of these floating turds have the Order of the Molly.  So much for the good name of Molly or the good judgement of PZ Myers or the value of a blog that is &quot;safe for atheists&quot; to speak their mind.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine, Paul will now tell you that he did not actually call Stephanie Greg&#8217;s Bitch, but just used all those words in a sentence and you have misinterpreted. </p>
<p>Paul&#8217;s friends, the other Pharyngulas, will now jump on the bandwagon and insist that Stephanie must apologize for this.  If she complains about this, she will be accused of hypocrisy and dishonesty.  There will be a flurry of comments about this, blaming Greg and Stephanie for breaking the Roolz of the Intertoobs Accordin&#8217; to Pharyngula.  </p>
<p>It does concern me a little that PZ myers does not say a word to his commenters about their behavior, and in fact, that half of these floating turds have the Order of the Molly.  So much for the good name of Molly or the good judgement of PZ Myers or the value of a blog that is &#8220;safe for atheists&#8221; to speak their mind.</p>
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