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	Comments on: Bible Verse Rifle Scope Problem Solved	</title>
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		By: jen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/bible-verse-rifle-scope-proble/#comment-512503</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Righteous...

You do realize, of course, that stopping the manufacturer was never meant to stop individual soldiers but to allow those individuals soldiers to follow their own consciences and beliefs? 

Or do you believe not only that all soldiers should believe, but that they all must believe exactly what you  believe (or, more accurately in this case, Trijicon believes)?

What if they&#039;d rather mark their weapon with a verse from the Old Testament?

BTW, I love how Trijicon kept talking about Judeo-Christian, but used New Testament verses...  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righteous&#8230;</p>
<p>You do realize, of course, that stopping the manufacturer was never meant to stop individual soldiers but to allow those individuals soldiers to follow their own consciences and beliefs? </p>
<p>Or do you believe not only that all soldiers should believe, but that they all must believe exactly what you  believe (or, more accurately in this case, Trijicon believes)?</p>
<p>What if they&#8217;d rather mark their weapon with a verse from the Old Testament?</p>
<p>BTW, I love how Trijicon kept talking about Judeo-Christian, but used New Testament verses&#8230;  </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Iaian, yeah, I figured. That was just a bible joke. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iaian, yeah, I figured. That was just a bible joke. </p>
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		By: OleanderTea		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/bible-verse-rifle-scope-proble/#comment-512501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OleanderTea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can only assume that Righteous Soldier is either a Catholic (and thus believes in things like &quot;relics&quot; and &quot;protection&quot; from &quot;holy&quot; objects), or he&#039;s a Protestant with zero knowledge of the tenants of his faith. 

Cromwell and Knox and other founders of Protestant denominations would consider &quot;marking&quot; items to give you strength in battle, little more than witchcraft. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only assume that Righteous Soldier is either a Catholic (and thus believes in things like &#8220;relics&#8221; and &#8220;protection&#8221; from &#8220;holy&#8221; objects), or he&#8217;s a Protestant with zero knowledge of the tenants of his faith. </p>
<p>Cromwell and Knox and other founders of Protestant denominations would consider &#8220;marking&#8221; items to give you strength in battle, little more than witchcraft. </p>
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		By: Iain		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/bible-verse-rifle-scope-proble/#comment-512500</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, Matthew]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, Matthew</p>
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		By: Badger3k		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/bible-verse-rifle-scope-proble/#comment-512499</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badger3k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Righteous&quot; can&#039;t tell if you&#039;re Poe, but if not - the soldiers who need faith are the ones who are the weakest.  They should be well trained and able to rely on their buddies - and that should not be faith but rational expectation based on their knoweldge of their squadmates.  Since prayer has failed every time it&#039;s been tested, their better off not wasting their time, unless they&#039;re the bed-wetting type who needs a hand to hold when they are scared.

I&#039;d rather have soldiers trained to think and react rather than rely on superstition and blind dogma.

Besides, if we pulled out the troops and made the US a theocracy, as would happen if you got rid of those who want to protect the Constitution from rabid fanatics, well, we&#039;ve seen how theocracies work - in Afghanistan, Iran, and North Korea (where the &quot;god&quot; is Kim Jung Il) today, and Europe in the middle ages.  Because everybody knows that different religions just get along swimmingly.  Gotta love them holy Crusades.  But are you really suggesting we appease the terrorists both abroad and at home?  

I&#039;d go with Psalm 137:9 for the verse on the scopes.  Of course, they probably have it on one already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Righteous&#8221; can&#8217;t tell if you&#8217;re Poe, but if not &#8211; the soldiers who need faith are the ones who are the weakest.  They should be well trained and able to rely on their buddies &#8211; and that should not be faith but rational expectation based on their knoweldge of their squadmates.  Since prayer has failed every time it&#8217;s been tested, their better off not wasting their time, unless they&#8217;re the bed-wetting type who needs a hand to hold when they are scared.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have soldiers trained to think and react rather than rely on superstition and blind dogma.</p>
<p>Besides, if we pulled out the troops and made the US a theocracy, as would happen if you got rid of those who want to protect the Constitution from rabid fanatics, well, we&#8217;ve seen how theocracies work &#8211; in Afghanistan, Iran, and North Korea (where the &#8220;god&#8221; is Kim Jung Il) today, and Europe in the middle ages.  Because everybody knows that different religions just get along swimmingly.  Gotta love them holy Crusades.  But are you really suggesting we appease the terrorists both abroad and at home?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d go with Psalm 137:9 for the verse on the scopes.  Of course, they probably have it on one already.</p>
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		By: NewEnglandBob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NewEnglandBob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fox news is evil. They hate everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox news is evil. They hate everyone.</p>
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		By: Rich Wilson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/bible-verse-rifle-scope-proble/#comment-512497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I still vote for:
&quot;The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.&quot;

Or there&#039;s Joseph Campbell&#039;s take, referring to his IBM/DOS PC: &quot;It&#039;s like the Old Testament God.  Lots of rules and no mercy.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still vote for:<br />
&#8220;The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or there&#8217;s Joseph Campbell&#8217;s take, referring to his IBM/DOS PC: &#8220;It&#8217;s like the Old Testament God.  Lots of rules and no mercy.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark 5:43 is &quot;And he strictly charged them that no one should know this, and told them to give her something to eat.&quot;  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark 5:43 is &#8220;And he strictly charged them that no one should know this, and told them to give her something to eat.&#8221;  </p>
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		By: craig		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/bible-verse-rifle-scope-proble/#comment-512495</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[craig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unicorns - as plausible as Jesus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unicorns &#8211; as plausible as Jesus</p>
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		By: itzac		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/bible-verse-rifle-scope-proble/#comment-512494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itzac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny how the (and I&#039;m just guessing here) threat of a canceled contract can quickly turn the most principled christian activist into a defender of the first amendment.

All hail the almighty buck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how the (and I&#8217;m just guessing here) threat of a canceled contract can quickly turn the most principled christian activist into a defender of the first amendment.</p>
<p>All hail the almighty buck.</p>
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