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		By: Issues in Sports		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/all-white-basketball-league/#comment-512490</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This game was played between Pittsburgh and Fordham at Madison Square Garden, and catapulted basketball into a national sensation. Since then basketball has been one of the most watched sports and in fact the March Madness, when almost 350 American colleges compete for the NCAA basketball crown is the most watched event in the United States.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This game was played between Pittsburgh and Fordham at Madison Square Garden, and catapulted basketball into a national sensation. Since then basketball has been one of the most watched sports and in fact the March Madness, when almost 350 American colleges compete for the NCAA basketball crown is the most watched event in the United States.</p>
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		By: jk		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why does&#039;nt everybody just look in the stands at an nba game and see who&#039;s buying the tickets? It&#039;s 90% whites who are paying to go see people grab their croch, choke their coach, beat their chest, attack people in the first rows, take guns into bars, can&#039;t shoot free throws, oh yeah and white americans also pay to go see 7 foot europeans.  So why dont you white people just boycott the nba games and write the tv sponsors and espn and tell them you&#039;re not going to watch anymore nba coverage?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does&#8217;nt everybody just look in the stands at an nba game and see who&#8217;s buying the tickets? It&#8217;s 90% whites who are paying to go see people grab their croch, choke their coach, beat their chest, attack people in the first rows, take guns into bars, can&#8217;t shoot free throws, oh yeah and white americans also pay to go see 7 foot europeans.  So why dont you white people just boycott the nba games and write the tv sponsors and espn and tell them you&#8217;re not going to watch anymore nba coverage?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Swami, I have to agree with you.  According to my very straight forward, highly useful, and very controversial definition of &quot;racist&quot; the NAACP is racist. 

How long will these organizations be &quot;needed&quot; ... Some will continue forever (more or less) but become focused on something else. Others will become unnedded abvout the time people stop screaming about when they will become unneeded.  That will especially be true when we see a laundry list of black-related organizations and the cry of racism but no one mentions Hibernians or the IACC and the like.

A Poe has come to mean a person pretending to be what they are by way of parody, in particular, a parody that meets the exceptions of &quot;Poe&#039;s Law&quot; but for a broader range of topics other than fundamentalism. 

Poe&#039;s law: 

&quot;Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won&#039;t mistake for the real thing.&quot;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swami, I have to agree with you.  According to my very straight forward, highly useful, and very controversial definition of &#8220;racist&#8221; the NAACP is racist. </p>
<p>How long will these organizations be &#8220;needed&#8221; &#8230; Some will continue forever (more or less) but become focused on something else. Others will become unnedded abvout the time people stop screaming about when they will become unneeded.  That will especially be true when we see a laundry list of black-related organizations and the cry of racism but no one mentions Hibernians or the IACC and the like.</p>
<p>A Poe has come to mean a person pretending to be what they are by way of parody, in particular, a parody that meets the exceptions of &#8220;Poe&#8217;s Law&#8221; but for a broader range of topics other than fundamentalism. </p>
<p>Poe&#8217;s law: </p>
<p>&#8220;Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won&#8217;t mistake for the real thing.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Swami		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/all-white-basketball-league/#comment-512487</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, I&#039;ll bite.  What&#039;s a Poe?  As in Edgar Allen?  Sterling Hayden Purity of Essence rant? What? What is it about a Poe that prevents their self respect from falling below a certain level?

Any comments on the Walter Williams article or is he just a Poe as well?  &quot;Ack -- grrkk.. Ack Ack Grkk...&quot; to him too, eh Greg?

Stephanie, I suggested certain organizations and actions are racist.   You say no, these are reactionary - not racist.  Assuming you are correct, I&#039;m asking for how much longer that claim can be justified.  Well?

I&#039;ll post one more comment after this and then I&#039;ll shut up.  I promise.  I&#039;ll give you two the last word.  You can call me racist and Poe and Ack ack geek geek all you want.  I want to post something about my candidate for Profiles in Black Courage, Ken Hamblin.  Thank you both for your indulgence. I didn&#039;t mean to get in your face, Stephanie.  I get carried away.  It&#039;s a &quot;Poe thing&quot; I guess.  I&#039;m sorry.  I know your heart is in the right place.  I just disagree with you.    ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll bite.  What&#8217;s a Poe?  As in Edgar Allen?  Sterling Hayden Purity of Essence rant? What? What is it about a Poe that prevents their self respect from falling below a certain level?</p>
<p>Any comments on the Walter Williams article or is he just a Poe as well?  &#8220;Ack &#8212; grrkk.. Ack Ack Grkk&#8230;&#8221; to him too, eh Greg?</p>
<p>Stephanie, I suggested certain organizations and actions are racist.   You say no, these are reactionary &#8211; not racist.  Assuming you are correct, I&#8217;m asking for how much longer that claim can be justified.  Well?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post one more comment after this and then I&#8217;ll shut up.  I promise.  I&#8217;ll give you two the last word.  You can call me racist and Poe and Ack ack geek geek all you want.  I want to post something about my candidate for Profiles in Black Courage, Ken Hamblin.  Thank you both for your indulgence. I didn&#8217;t mean to get in your face, Stephanie.  I get carried away.  It&#8217;s a &#8220;Poe thing&#8221; I guess.  I&#8217;m sorry.  I know your heart is in the right place.  I just disagree with you.    </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stephanie, I&#039;ll have to check in the moderation cue for a post that says &quot;Ack -- grrkk.. Ack Ack Grkk...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, I&#8217;ll have to check in the moderation cue for a post that says &#8220;Ack &#8212; grrkk.. Ack Ack Grkk&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/all-white-basketball-league/#comment-512485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, someone acting as a Poe would generally still choke on getting all up in my face about suggesting JFK did anything racist in one comment and coming back later to excuse that racism as a product of its times. They&#039;d choke on claiming that the subject of the original post is racist in one statement and demanding to know how long blacks reacting to racism is justified in another. Even Poes generally have too much self-respect for that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, someone acting as a Poe would generally still choke on getting all up in my face about suggesting JFK did anything racist in one comment and coming back later to excuse that racism as a product of its times. They&#8217;d choke on claiming that the subject of the original post is racist in one statement and demanding to know how long blacks reacting to racism is justified in another. Even Poes generally have too much self-respect for that.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;How long are you and your apologists going to continue to repress minorities by making excuses and failing to hold them accountable?&lt;/em&gt;


I call Poe. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How long are you and your apologists going to continue to repress minorities by making excuses and failing to hold them accountable?</em></p>
<p>I call Poe. </p>
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		By: Swami		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hereâ??s a link to an article by Walter Williams in defense of Bill Cosby who was vilified by the black community when he had the audacity to suggest they hold themselves accountable.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3719

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hereâ??s a link to an article by Walter Williams in defense of Bill Cosby who was vilified by the black community when he had the audacity to suggest they hold themselves accountable.<br />
<a href="http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3719" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3719</a></p>
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		By: Swami		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stephanie, I donâ??t know why JFK included no blacks in Profiles in Courage.  I think itâ??s unfortunate he did not.  There were certainly fine examples from which to choose.  We are all, to some extent, shaped and swayed by the times in which we live, and subject to the prevailing attitudes of the day.  JFK was not immune.  Our nation has come a long way since the mid 50â??s.  Perhaps we simply werenâ??t ready.  And why do YOU think he didnâ??t?  No doubt some sinister white conspiracy in which â??racial minorities and the underclass are played against each other in order to keep the upper class climbing into the ether and that the middle class helps out by playing alongâ?.  What a load of drivel!  Hereâ??s a site where bloggers pride themselves at least in part to skepticism and critical thinking, and along you come with a head full of socialist ideology as pestered with dogma as the most fundamentalist of Southern Baptists.  

Despite your dishonest intellectual gymnastics, and how ever good you are at making excuses, you canâ??t avoid your double standard approach when it comes to race.  Itâ??s plain and simple.  You have two sets of values: one for whites â?? one for blacks.  Reactionary, but not necessarily racist?  How long is that claim justified?  Ten more years?  20 years?  Another century?  After 3 black presidents have sat in the oval office maybe?  How long are you and your apologists going to continue to repress minorities by making excuses and failing to hold them accountable?    
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, I donâ??t know why JFK included no blacks in Profiles in Courage.  I think itâ??s unfortunate he did not.  There were certainly fine examples from which to choose.  We are all, to some extent, shaped and swayed by the times in which we live, and subject to the prevailing attitudes of the day.  JFK was not immune.  Our nation has come a long way since the mid 50â??s.  Perhaps we simply werenâ??t ready.  And why do YOU think he didnâ??t?  No doubt some sinister white conspiracy in which â??racial minorities and the underclass are played against each other in order to keep the upper class climbing into the ether and that the middle class helps out by playing alongâ?.  What a load of drivel!  Hereâ??s a site where bloggers pride themselves at least in part to skepticism and critical thinking, and along you come with a head full of socialist ideology as pestered with dogma as the most fundamentalist of Southern Baptists.  </p>
<p>Despite your dishonest intellectual gymnastics, and how ever good you are at making excuses, you canâ??t avoid your double standard approach when it comes to race.  Itâ??s plain and simple.  You have two sets of values: one for whites â?? one for blacks.  Reactionary, but not necessarily racist?  How long is that claim justified?  Ten more years?  20 years?  Another century?  After 3 black presidents have sat in the oval office maybe?  How long are you and your apologists going to continue to repress minorities by making excuses and failing to hold them accountable?    </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/22/all-white-basketball-league/#comment-512481</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I never said this was all simple, Spartan. If it were, there probably wouldn&#039;t be any comments here. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I never said this was all simple, Spartan. If it were, there probably wouldn&#8217;t be any comments here. 🙂</p>
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