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	Comments on: Will Phoenix rise from the ice?	</title>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511821</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, thanks, I fixed it.  But I just want you to know that I don&#039;t beleive in that rule.  I mean really, what a fucking dumb rule.  Possessive is a standard grammatical features, elision is a stylistic add on.  Whoever came up with that rule should be hung by the participle until dea. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks, I fixed it.  But I just want you to know that I don&#8217;t beleive in that rule.  I mean really, what a fucking dumb rule.  Possessive is a standard grammatical features, elision is a stylistic add on.  Whoever came up with that rule should be hung by the participle until dea. </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511820</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m reminded of this Daily Show clip:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-17-2008/indecision-2008---philadelphia-democratic-debate-in-review-pt--2]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of this Daily Show clip:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-17-2008/indecision-2008---philadelphia-democratic-debate-in-review-pt--2" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-17-2008/indecision-2008&#8212;philadelphia-democratic-debate-in-review-pt&#8211;2</a></p>
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		By: David Ross		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With all due respect, please see:

http://copyediting-grammar-style.suite101.com/article.cfm/when_to_use_an_apostrophe]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, please see:</p>
<p><a href="http://copyediting-grammar-style.suite101.com/article.cfm/when_to_use_an_apostrophe" rel="nofollow ugc">http://copyediting-grammar-style.suite101.com/article.cfm/when_to_use_an_apostrophe</a></p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, the image I downloaded (from the same place both of us are looking) is a different filename.  Since they send me press releases, and this time I posted it right away, it may well be that they had a different image up at first and swapped it.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, the image I downloaded (from the same place both of us are looking) is a different filename.  Since they send me press releases, and this time I posted it right away, it may well be that they had a different image up at first and swapped it.  </p>
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		By: DaleP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaleP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ahh, that suggestion makes sense. Now, the 2 NASA images have the same orientation. Perhaps someone posted the recent image with North up. Then, someone else decided consistency with the older image was better, since NASA compares the images in the more recent post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, that suggestion makes sense. Now, the 2 NASA images have the same orientation. Perhaps someone posted the recent image with North up. Then, someone else decided consistency with the older image was better, since NASA compares the images in the more recent post.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yea, but ... I clipped that image from the same image you linked to (and that I linked to, indirectly) and I did not rotate the image.  This can only mean that image was rotated by NASA since they put it up.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, but &#8230; I clipped that image from the same image you linked to (and that I linked to, indirectly) and I did not rotate the image.  This can only mean that image was rotated by NASA since they put it up.  </p>
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		By: DaleP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaleP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By &quot;upside down&quot;, I meant as displayed on the web page. On this page, the top edge of the green box above is the lower green edge on the image I linked to in comment 1.

A page for a photo of June 2008 (linked from the source image page) reports that North is approximately down for this image orientation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;upside down&#8221;, I meant as displayed on the web page. On this page, the top edge of the green box above is the lower green edge on the image I linked to in comment 1.</p>
<p>A page for a photo of June 2008 (linked from the source image page) reports that North is approximately down for this image orientation.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are correct that that is the heat shield, but I did not turn the image upside down (not that there really is an upside down). ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct that that is the heat shield, but I did not turn the image upside down (not that there really is an upside down). </p>
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		By: DaleP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/12/will-phoenix-rise-from-the-ice/#comment-511813</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaleP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Image source:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/images/phoenix20100111.html

(linked from your link)

The image in your post above seems to be the middle green box from the source, which NASA reports is the heat shield. Your image is also upside down relative to the presentation on the NASA page. The lander is clearly visible in the bottom green box of the source.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Image source:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/images/phoenix20100111.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/images/phoenix20100111.html</a></p>
<p>(linked from your link)</p>
<p>The image in your post above seems to be the middle green box from the source, which NASA reports is the heat shield. Your image is also upside down relative to the presentation on the NASA page. The lander is clearly visible in the bottom green box of the source.</p>
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