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		By: Luciano Pytko		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-712627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luciano Pytko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this place at this website, I have read all that,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this place at this website, I have read all that,</p>
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		By: Mary Ann		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511011</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m African American, and &quot;Blacks have excellent rhythm&quot; is not a racist thing to say, and the question is absurd. I have rhythm, and I believe that it is wonderful, so I would not be offended if someone who&#039;s non Black said that I have excellent rhythm. Rhythm makes the world go around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m African American, and &#8220;Blacks have excellent rhythm&#8221; is not a racist thing to say, and the question is absurd. I have rhythm, and I believe that it is wonderful, so I would not be offended if someone who&#8217;s non Black said that I have excellent rhythm. Rhythm makes the world go around.</p>
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		By: mk		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511010</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr Bryan...

Even if they deleted all &quot;defamatory comments&quot; about you... there is still the problem of um... your comments! YOUR comments. Your ignorant, racist comments. 

Dude, there&#039;s no saving you from you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Bryan&#8230;</p>
<p>Even if they deleted all &#8220;defamatory comments&#8221; about you&#8230; there is still the problem of um&#8230; your comments! YOUR comments. Your ignorant, racist comments. </p>
<p>Dude, there&#8217;s no saving you from you!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511009</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Greg may or may not be a clueless ass, but you&#039;re clearly an idiot.

&lt;/em&gt;

This is totally my new blog banner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Greg may or may not be a clueless ass, but you&#8217;re clearly an idiot.</p>
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<p>This is totally my new blog banner.</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511008</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If you do reject, please stop mentioning my name in further blog posts (I am very serious on this point. If you reject my offer and further defame my name, I will seek an injunction and legal action against you and seed media).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s not about debating IQ at this point; I am seeking to protect my professional reputation against knowingly false claims made to harm me (reputation-wise, financially, emotionally).

At a minimum, you need to delete all references to my name that defame me. You need to stop making further defamatory comments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bryan, the only person who has used your name in blog posts is me. I used it when reviewing your paper, and I used it when referring to an argument you made under that name. Both are quite clearly non-defamatory uses of your name, and the analysis of the paper you expressly invited.

Greg ceasing to do something he hasn&#039;t done yet won&#039;t make any difference in the world. What is it you want him to stop doing to you that you didn&#039;t first do to him? The question of doing it first may not be a legal requirement for defamation, but it does assure that you taking legal action would, at the very least, do more to damage your reputation than any spouting off on a blog could possibly do.

Aside from that, which statements by Greg mischaracterize your position? How can anything possibly be a &quot;knowingly false claim&quot; when you cheer on some thoroughly nasty racist commenters while refusing to clarify your own position? Is close scrutiny of that something you really want to invite? Talk about damaging one&#039;s reputation.

Kind of like going from setting up a debate to &quot;It&#039;s not about debating IQ at this point&quot; in just over an hour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you do reject, please stop mentioning my name in further blog posts (I am very serious on this point. If you reject my offer and further defame my name, I will seek an injunction and legal action against you and seed media).</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not about debating IQ at this point; I am seeking to protect my professional reputation against knowingly false claims made to harm me (reputation-wise, financially, emotionally).</p>
<p>At a minimum, you need to delete all references to my name that defame me. You need to stop making further defamatory comments.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bryan, the only person who has used your name in blog posts is me. I used it when reviewing your paper, and I used it when referring to an argument you made under that name. Both are quite clearly non-defamatory uses of your name, and the analysis of the paper you expressly invited.</p>
<p>Greg ceasing to do something he hasn&#8217;t done yet won&#8217;t make any difference in the world. What is it you want him to stop doing to you that you didn&#8217;t first do to him? The question of doing it first may not be a legal requirement for defamation, but it does assure that you taking legal action would, at the very least, do more to damage your reputation than any spouting off on a blog could possibly do.</p>
<p>Aside from that, which statements by Greg mischaracterize your position? How can anything possibly be a &#8220;knowingly false claim&#8221; when you cheer on some thoroughly nasty racist commenters while refusing to clarify your own position? Is close scrutiny of that something you really want to invite? Talk about damaging one&#8217;s reputation.</p>
<p>Kind of like going from setting up a debate to &#8220;It&#8217;s not about debating IQ at this point&#8221; in just over an hour.</p>
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		By: MonkeyPox		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511007</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MonkeyPox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ZOMFG, Bryan are you still trying to protect your imaginary reputation?  And even if you had a reputation, how can we possibly protect you from your own asinine ejaculations?

And, FWIW, if you are a famous dude with a rep, the bar is set rather high for &quot;defamation&quot;.  

Greg may or may not be a clueless ass, but you&#039;re clearly an idiot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZOMFG, Bryan are you still trying to protect your imaginary reputation?  And even if you had a reputation, how can we possibly protect you from your own asinine ejaculations?</p>
<p>And, FWIW, if you are a famous dude with a rep, the bar is set rather high for &#8220;defamation&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Greg may or may not be a clueless ass, but you&#8217;re clearly an idiot.</p>
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		By: Comrade PhysioProf		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511006</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Comrade PhysioProf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bryan: LOON ALERT!!111!!!11!11!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan: LOON ALERT!!111!!!11!11!!</p>
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		By: Bryan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511005</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg

It&#039;s not about debating IQ at this point; I am seeking to protect my professional reputation against knowingly false claims made to harm me (reputation-wise, financially, emotionally).

At a minimum, you need to delete all references to my name that defame me. You need to stop making further defamatory comments. My understanding is the sooner you do this, the less your (and seed media&#039;s) damages.

I&#039;m asking sincerely, nicely; professionally that you do this.

If you won&#039;t, I will make the same request to seed media. If they won&#039;t, I will seek a legal remedy.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about debating IQ at this point; I am seeking to protect my professional reputation against knowingly false claims made to harm me (reputation-wise, financially, emotionally).</p>
<p>At a minimum, you need to delete all references to my name that defame me. You need to stop making further defamatory comments. My understanding is the sooner you do this, the less your (and seed media&#8217;s) damages.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m asking sincerely, nicely; professionally that you do this.</p>
<p>If you won&#8217;t, I will make the same request to seed media. If they won&#8217;t, I will seek a legal remedy.</p>
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		By: Jason Thibeault		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/01/01/is-black-have-excellent-rhythm/#comment-511004</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Thibeault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oooh, oooh, Bryan, I have an idea, perhaps you could file a DMCA report against Greg for his use of your obviously copyrighted name when referring to you.  Seed Media would obviously have to shut down his blog immediately!  It&#039;s a plan that cannot fail!!!!1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, oooh, Bryan, I have an idea, perhaps you could file a DMCA report against Greg for his use of your obviously copyrighted name when referring to you.  Seed Media would obviously have to shut down his blog immediately!  It&#8217;s a plan that cannot fail!!!!1</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bryan, I don&#039;t think I need to give you anything, and I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve been anything but a mirror for your own defamation.  I also think, and I&#039;m trying to be helpful here because of our colleague-ship in areas other than race, that you are making yourself look rather foolish right now.  

But having said that I&#039;m willing to give you this:   A guest post spot.  Write a post laying out your position on race and IQ and keep it to reasonable length and I&#039;ll post it as a guest post.  

But then you have to leave.  You&#039;ll be welcome to comment on that post, to respond to comments other make, etc. but I don&#039;t want you commenting elsewhere on this blog because you have become an annoyance and a liability.  But on that one post you will be free to comment as long as you stay within the normal rules of conduct. 

The best way to send me your post is in HTML format.   Any graphics you use need to be no more than 500 pixels wide and preferable in JPEG format.  Just put markers in the text where the graphics are to go and I&#039;ll put in the links.

If you prefer, and if Mike and Stephanie agree, perhaps you&#039;d like to put the guest post at Quiche Moraine instead.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, I don&#8217;t think I need to give you anything, and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve been anything but a mirror for your own defamation.  I also think, and I&#8217;m trying to be helpful here because of our colleague-ship in areas other than race, that you are making yourself look rather foolish right now.  </p>
<p>But having said that I&#8217;m willing to give you this:   A guest post spot.  Write a post laying out your position on race and IQ and keep it to reasonable length and I&#8217;ll post it as a guest post.  </p>
<p>But then you have to leave.  You&#8217;ll be welcome to comment on that post, to respond to comments other make, etc. but I don&#8217;t want you commenting elsewhere on this blog because you have become an annoyance and a liability.  But on that one post you will be free to comment as long as you stay within the normal rules of conduct. </p>
<p>The best way to send me your post is in HTML format.   Any graphics you use need to be no more than 500 pixels wide and preferable in JPEG format.  Just put markers in the text where the graphics are to go and I&#8217;ll put in the links.</p>
<p>If you prefer, and if Mike and Stephanie agree, perhaps you&#8217;d like to put the guest post at Quiche Moraine instead.  </p>
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