Comments on: The Irony of Henry Adams: The most misunderstood quote evah! https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/ Tue, 20 Jun 2017 05:13:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Ronney A https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549550 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 05:13:06 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549550 One the problems with post-modernism is the nonsensical and meaningless job a man must have to explain with 2 thousand words a quote of a dead man who does no harm with twelve.

Another problem with post-modernism, is people using Irony and exclamation points on the same sentence, usually they end their compelling argument with say my friend is an expert at this very useless thing.

Get more interesting friends or spend your life donating money to orphans in Bangladesh.

]]> By: Sean Holland https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549549 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:45:53 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549549 I came across your blog in an attempt to vet this quote. I came across in “Telecollaboration 2.0: Language, literacies and intercultural learning in the 21st century.” It was used by Dooly (2010) to conclude her chapter titled “Teacher 2.0” which examined the role of teachers who attempt to employ Web 2.0 technologies in a language learning classroom. This quote is powerful, and I can easily see how it is bandied about as a sort of trite paean to the teaching profession. But even upon my first reading, I interpreted it partially as a warning to teachers, as a sort of reality check regarding the potentially weighty consequences of their choices in the classroom, since they have no way of seeing their long term effects. So yes, for good or for bad, teachers do effect eternity – if this quote is used to encourage everyone to view the job of teachers in a more serious light, then I think that’s a good thing.

]]> By: Stephanie Z https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549548 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:14:44 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549548 And yet you keep coming back, Donald, despite not having anything to say.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549547 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:04:24 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549547 HEY! Watch the Minnesota Jokes, eh?

]]> By: sir donald https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549546 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:57:32 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549546 Facts? Please. I think I’d rather go stick my arm in a wood chipper than continue this assault on critical thinking.

]]> By: Stephanie Z https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549545 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:19:45 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549545 Donald, you have to make a case before you can rest it. Well, you do if you want to have a chance of persuading the judge or jury.

You’ve made several assertions in this comment thread. They’ve been challenged with historical fact. You haven’t responded to the challenges except to distort what’s been said and insult the people challenging them. The fact that you’ve done it with long words doesn’t change that, doesn’t turn your insults into argument. It just teams up with the fact that you can’t even keep track of your own assertions (“All empires are bad according to Stephanie. Chaos is of course much better.” “‘Gee, chaos isn’t the only alternative to empire.’ Hey at least we agree on something.) and that you really don’t seem to understand the long words you’re using to make you look like a pompous windbag saying, “Pay no attention to the temper tantrum behind the curtain.”

None of it changes the fact that our country has talked a much better game of democracy than it’s played. None of it changes the fact that we’ve had a very large hand in creating today’s global problems. None of it changes the fact that empire is generally good for a very few people and has, on balance, a negative effect on the rest. None of it changes the fact that empire capitalism as practiced by Britain and the U.S. requires racism to justify its exploitation. None of it even changes the fact that your idol was a nasty little racist piece of work himself.

]]> By: sir donald https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549544 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:14:04 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549544 I rest my case. Incredible.

]]> By: Jason Thibeault https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549543 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:43:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549543

polemics

You keep using that word. I do no’ think it means wha’ you think it means.

]]> By: sir donald https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549542 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:27:28 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549542 More jaunty polemics and pedantic dogmatism….even less thought. Here’s one for the road for the rest of you. From Adams we learn nothing if not how to understand how force and the economy/efficiency of force operate in the modern world. Its economy is maybe even more important as we have learned from quantum physics, information theory, and the genome.

He marveled in Hammerfest, Norway that the city at the darkest edge of the world was so well lit and that the news of Pres. McKinley’s death reached him at such lightening speed through an undersea telegraph line. He then said it seemed as though man were correcting the flaws of the world and the problem of the ecliptic. He also marveled that Russia was doomed due to its inability to change its own inertia long before the Soviet Era BEGAN. One hundred plus years later we find ourselves in the same quest and trapped by similar inertia. Can we survive? That is the greatest question of them all.

]]> By: sir donald https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549541 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:25:45 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/27/the-most-misused-and-misunders/#comment-549541 More jaunty polemics and pedantic dogmatism….even less thought. Here’s one for the road for the rest of you. From Adams we learn nothing if not how to understand how force and the economy/efficiency of force operate in the modern world. Its economy is maybe even more important as we have learned from quantum physics, information theory, and the genome.

He marveled in Hammerfest, Norway that the city at the darkest edge of the world was so well lit and that the news of Pres. McKinley’s death reached him at such lightening speed through an undersea telegraph line. He then said it seemed as though man were correcting the flaws of the world and the problem of the ecliptic. He also marveled that Russia was doomed due to its inability to change its own inertia long before the Soviet Era BEGAN. One hundred plus years later we find ourselves in the same quest. Can we survive? That is the greatest question of them all.

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