If it wasn’t serious statements like this would be funny. I didn’t vote for our current government, but I am certainly free and not a slave. How can someone who comes from a country that had a President for eight years who was totally manipulated by big corporations and who was so lacking in intellect that he embarrassed every thinking American have the temerity to write such rubbish about a country that still could teach the USA a great deal about democracy and equality?

Where is your evidence that everyone in politics is equally corrupt? That’s a mighty strong claim that requires serious evidence.

Where is your evidence that the Republican Party is split on any question of policy? Where are the issues in actual politics in which they are not acting in concert? Pointing out that there a multiple candidates and hurt feelings over who is on the ballot is not evidence of a split over anything except who should be in charge. Noting differences in campaign strategy means nothing in regard to political policy.

Where is your evidence that Greg doesn’t tolerate dissent? You’re here and commenting. Being told to stop whining is not the same thing as being shut up.

I’d rather you provide evidence as Stephanie suggests. You tip your hand, and maybe I’ll tip mine.

“Pointing to the differences in the Republican party as being between Newt Gingrich (corrupt on the concept of family values–required for everyone but him) and Sarah Palin (corrupt on the question of government support–bad except where it makes her popular in Alaska–and abortion–nobody but Bristol should have one) isn’t cutting it.”

Umm, that is evidence.

The “Newt” wing of the Party and the “Palin” wing of the party are at odds over the perceived “moderateness” of the primary candidate in New York’s 23rd district.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gop-identity-crisis27-2009oct27,0,3534419.story

The fact is that the GOP is not the monolithic organization that lieberals say it is. Just as the Demorat party isn’t either. There is a spectrum of belief within the GOP and if you pay attention it becomes obvious.

Please provide evidence of this.

Pointing to the differences in the Republican party as being between Newt Gingrich (corrupt on the concept of family values–required for everyone but him) and Sarah Palin (corrupt on the question of government support–bad except where it makes her popular in Alaska–and abortion–nobody but Bristol should have one) isn’t cutting it.

You clearly implied they are morally perfect

He actually clearly said:

The right wing, the conservatives, the Republicans, are morally bankrupt. The rest of the world is not as bankrupt. Liberals and progressives are especially not morally bankrupt.

Let me draw you an ASCII diagram.

Morally Bankrupt *1-c——–2—–3——* Morally Pure

Point 1 is the Republicans. Well, actually, they’re more around the first “o” or “r”, they’ve actually gone off the scale. 2 is the “rest of the world” — roughly center, tending toward selfish, but capable of making a distinction between good and evil. Point 3 is the progressives/liberals that want civil liberties and not to be subjugated by an oppressive propaganda regime as the current Republican party has devolved into supporting, as evidenced by the last administration (which, despite your protestations, is a far cry closer to fascism than Obama is to socialism).

(For reference, point “c” is the Catholic church. They only fuck up Africa, repress peoples’ sexuality, and bugger little boys. Republicans go so far as to rape the entire planet indiscriminately.)

I would note that you said

“Liberals and progressives are especially not morally bankrupt.”

You clearly implied they are morally perfect, and I called you on it. You then proceeded to get angry that your icons were questioned. Interesting that you seem to know nothing of Charlie Rangels tax problems and corruption allegations, as well as knowing nothing about liberals like Jesse Jackson (morally pure but has children out of wedlock as well as numerous corruption allegations) and Al Sharpton (corruption and Tawana Brawley come to mind).

The hard reality that you seem to be so unwilling to accept is that corruption and politics go together and BOTH sides are responsbible. You cannot have a yin without a yang.

“They’re black guys. I know that’s a problem for you but they can’t hep it.”

So black people can’t help being black? How racist of you.

You should point out any circumstance at all, any, where I have expressed a negative opinion about black people. Since you can’t, you should come off your high horse.

“No again. Right now, the Republicans/Conservatives are walking in perfect lockstep, so as far as I can see,. . . I see no dissent, I see no one complaining about that.”

Then you don’t see very well. Even now, there is a Congressional race in New York where the party is clearly divided between two candidates. One supported by Palin and several others and the others supported by Gingrich and others. The fact is that the GOP is not a monolithic organization, just as the Demorats aren’t either. You’ve let your biases take over for critical thought.

“Stop complaining, stop telling lies, stop trying to pretend that you are not an unmitigated useless ass that haw no right whatsoever to breath my air.”

My my, how tolerant of you. Are all lieberals so tolerant of differing opinions?

I note that I haven’t called anyone names nor wished them dead. Yet you go there as a matter of course. Interesting.

“I object to the lies, to the toting around of guns, and, once again, to the fact that they are breathing my air. ”

I would note that the “toting” of guns was and is legal in the jursdictions where it ocurred. Not saying it was the right thing to do. It is a right, just like the right of free speech that you seem to want to limit in others. Again, a rather interesting stance for a liberal to take.

Overall, I’d say you’re viciously intolerant of dissent. For a scientist I would expect better. Do you attack your peers when they disagree with you too?

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Anyone else notice there’s absolutely no evidence that any of the trolls in this thread have watched the embedded movie? One click and seven minutes of their time is all it would cost them, and in exchange they’d know what’s ACTUALLY SAID in the video and would know how to comment on the contents.

There’s absolutely nothing said by any of these trolls that relates to the content of the video, cluing me in that they are here through a Google search for “fox news” or some permutation of that, and posting on every post that seems hostile.

You’re paid shills. And assholes.