Comments on: The Public Option … OMG … Holy crap. From now on we’re doing it this way, no kidding… https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/ Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:38:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Oran Kelley https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549380 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:38:51 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549380

And she’s been just like this since way before Jon Stewart was generally known of.

Stewart’s Daily Show debut: 1999. And Maddow’s Air America producer came from . . . the Daily Show! Think of that!

Just because Maddow is a lesbian, doesn’t mean she is a faultless paragon in every other aspect of her life and career, and the implication that she’s a lesbian and therefore immune from all criticism is demeaning to her, frankly.

She’s a broadcasting professional and as such she looks at other practitioners in the field (even before they are terrifically famous) and borrows & adapts where appropriate. Everyone does it, sorry to harsh your idol worship buzz.

What I’m saying is this doesn’t work as well enough for her, and she’d do better NOT to do the snarky Stewartian cut-ins and the sardonic gaze into the camera bit.

And the REASON I make the suggestion is a like her and I think she can be a fair deal better and a lot bigger than she already is.

]]> By: marilove https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549379 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:53:14 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549379 Because she’s on TV, makes political commentary, and sometimes uses humor to make that commentary, she must be trying to emulate Jon Stewart, right? *eye roll*

I’m with skeptifem on this one.

]]> By: Kate https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549378 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:21:18 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549378 And she’s been just like this since way before Jon Stewart was generally known of.

]]> By: Jason Thibeault https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549377 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:08:48 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549377 Yeah, Oran, it’s pretty obvious you haven’t watched much of her. This is her. It’s not her imitating Jon Stewart or anyone else — it’s just her. She’s like that, all the time. If that’s not your cup of tea, then whatever — don’t watch, don’t “worship at her church”.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549376 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:11:01 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549376 Thanks, Skeptifem. This is the sense I had but I had not looked at that source. I think this probably occurs at several levels, not all as profane and as blatantly stupid as the remarks on uTube.

]]> By: skeptifem https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549375 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:01:57 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549375 A quick trip to Maddow’s youtube videos will reveal the source of the opposition to her. Its extremely difficult to find a video of hers that does not contain the words “dyke”, “bitch”, or “cunt” multiple times in the comments. A lesbian who doesn’t serve to titillate dudes causes a surprisingly strong negative reaction within dude nation.

]]> By: Diane G. https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549374 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:21:30 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549374 OK, I’ll dodge the brickbats & agree with Oran that that was my first (and continuing) impression of Maddow as well. (And listening to this clip, I found her voice a bit reminiscent of Diane Sawyer’s. Aaack.) But then I’m really not much for vids; & greatly prefer the most subtle,understated irony over sit-com like breaks for applause lines..

But since most of America disagrees with me, Rachel seems to be doing a great job in the manner most popular. Not to mention the Billionaires for Healthcare! Been following them since the Bush administration (when they were for tax breaks, etc.). Considering the “showmen” on the right, I guess one has to fight fire with fire. (Not to mention facts, science, and other little details.)

]]> By: peter https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549373 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:54:52 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549373 why do Americans have to mutilate a perfectly good German name like dachs hund, pronounced :”ducks hoond” = badger dog,
or “dackel” for short, pronounced “duckl”.

If you guys can’t pronounce the name properly – invent your own for the breed.

]]> By: Elizabeth https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549372 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:25:21 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549372 Or other people have to stop copying her.

]]> By: Oran Kelley https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549371 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:20:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/26/the-public-option-omg-holy-cra/#comment-549371 If not worshiping at the Church of Maddow is an issue to be worked out then, yes, I’ve got work ahead of me.

I like her–I liked her on the radio, and I like her most of the time on TV (admittedly I haven’t seen her all that much–I don’t have a TV, either), but she’s really got to find her own comedic shtick if she’s going to work that vein.

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