Comments on: The Bible says “If ye take a man’s rifle and beat him to death with it, ye shall be put to death” … in Texas. https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/ Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:26:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: bullofthewoods https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548732 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:26:35 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548732 Tim @ 12, my computer time has been very limited lately. Gotta earn a living you know. However here is the link to the original story. http://www.brewtonstandard.com/articles/2009/10/14/news/doc4ad5ce19a06ae229318910.txt Rich wilson@11 logical or not I have to believe someone kicking down my door and pointing a gun at me in my own home doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, but hey that’s just me.

]]> By: bullofthewoods https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548731 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:35:06 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548731 Tim@12 Sorry, I don’t know how to do the linky thing, but here is the address to the newspaper article. http://www.brewtonstandard.com/articles/2009/10/21/news/local_news/doc4addc8bdc839c420873954.txt

]]> By: jake https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548730 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548730 Maybe no one from the jury brought in the bibles. Maybe jury rooms in Texas are like hotels, they always have a bible in them.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548729 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:00:07 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548729 Flynn: I was wondering the same thing myself.

]]> By: flynn https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548728 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:58:31 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548728 Is it OK in this jurisdiction to bring extraneous materials into the jury room for research and consultation? It may be jury misconduct. Anyone know?

]]> By: Antoni Jaume https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548727 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:14:32 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548727 Since the quoted passage was possibly writen when the Bronze Age (as I’ve seen attributed to Dawkins), I would interpret that the mention of iron, a rare metal then that was at first more valuable than gold or silver, and was mostly used in war weapons, is akin to say “high technology weapon”. To use a “high technology weapon” to kill someone seems to imply intention, and that is one difference between manslaughter and murder. So that would require a harsher punishment.

]]> By: Jason Thibeault https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548726 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:35:05 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548726 So, why is the Bible a salient detail at all? It also says to suffer not a midget to live. Would a jury use that as an excuse to put a little person that’s on trial for jaywalking to death?

There are plenty of ways to defend yourself against a home invasion that don’t involve guns. Many of them way more effective. Like dogs.

]]> By: Captain Obvious https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548725 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:18:36 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548725 Clearly this means that if someone (lets for the sake of argument make it a crazed drug addled maniac with an axe) breaks into your house in the US and you use a gun to defend yourself, killing him in the process, you should be executed for murder.

Afterall, that is what the Bible says.

Unless…
If you used one of those ceramic guns baddies in films use to get past xray machines, presumably you’d be ok. There would be no smiting with an iron instrument involved there, allowing you to kill from the comforting safety of a shroud of divine glory, knowing the Lord is with you.

]]> By: sailor https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548724 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:07:42 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548724 Irene is right, executing the wrong man is not that rare at all, especially if he is black and cannot afford a good lawyer. Quite a few that had not yet been executed have bee let out since DNA evidence proved them innocent.

]]> By: Irene https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548723 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:22:04 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/20/the-bible-says-if-ye-take-a-ma/#comment-548723 a: It is not that rare. I suppose it may depend on how one defines rare, but most people seem surprised when they find out how common this is.

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