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	Comments on: H1N1 2009 Novel Swine Flu Thingie = Fewer Hospital Beds?	</title>
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		By: HP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/13/h1n1-2009-novel-swine-flu-thin/#comment-548432</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we should name influenza viruses the way we name tropical storms -- use common given names, and cycle them alphabetically. Influenza Alphonse, Influenza Betty, Influenza Cameron, Influenza Denise, etc., etc.

It&#039;s purely arbitrary and with no scientific basis, but the press and public would not soon confuse Influenza Alphonse with Influenza Betty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should name influenza viruses the way we name tropical storms &#8212; use common given names, and cycle them alphabetically. Influenza Alphonse, Influenza Betty, Influenza Cameron, Influenza Denise, etc., etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s purely arbitrary and with no scientific basis, but the press and public would not soon confuse Influenza Alphonse with Influenza Betty.</p>
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		By: qbsmd		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/13/h1n1-2009-novel-swine-flu-thin/#comment-548431</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been wondering how practical it would be for hospitals to completely separate (as in put in different buildings) the parts that are needed to diagnose and treat communicable diseases and the parts that do surgeries and are therefore full of people more likely to catch diseases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering how practical it would be for hospitals to completely separate (as in put in different buildings) the parts that are needed to diagnose and treat communicable diseases and the parts that do surgeries and are therefore full of people more likely to catch diseases.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Expanding on what Kate said, I think this will spur on the development of &quot;fast track&quot; options in ERs that are run by nurse practitioners.  With the swine flu scare on, many parents that would just put their flu-ey kid on bedrest are bringing them in.  This drastically decreases the already small signal:noise ratio of ER patients.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expanding on what Kate said, I think this will spur on the development of &#8220;fast track&#8221; options in ERs that are run by nurse practitioners.  With the swine flu scare on, many parents that would just put their flu-ey kid on bedrest are bringing them in.  This drastically decreases the already small signal:noise ratio of ER patients.</p>
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		By: D. C. Sessions		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. C. Sessions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The usual convention for naming these things would have called it the Mexico City flu.  Mexico objected.  So then we fell back on &quot;swine flu&quot; and millions of pigs all over the world were destroyed (and I don&#039;t mean slaughtered for consumption.)  The pigfarmers might or might not have objected, but the big meatpackers &lt;i&gt;absolutely&lt;/i&gt; have major clout with everyone who counts (especially television networks) so we fell back on &quot;novel H1N1.&quot;

I don&#039;t think we can blame novelists for dropping the &quot;novel&quot; part and just calling it H1N1, but now we have rocket scientists &lt;a href=&quot;http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-13593-0.html?forumID=1&amp;threadID=70306&amp;messageID=1348293&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;noticing&lt;/a&gt; that there are patented influenza vaccines whose patents referred to H1N1 strains before this year and are using that to sell tinfoil hats.

Blame Canada.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The usual convention for naming these things would have called it the Mexico City flu.  Mexico objected.  So then we fell back on &#8220;swine flu&#8221; and millions of pigs all over the world were destroyed (and I don&#8217;t mean slaughtered for consumption.)  The pigfarmers might or might not have objected, but the big meatpackers <i>absolutely</i> have major clout with everyone who counts (especially television networks) so we fell back on &#8220;novel H1N1.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we can blame novelists for dropping the &#8220;novel&#8221; part and just calling it H1N1, but now we have rocket scientists <a href="http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-13593-0.html?forumID=1&#038;threadID=70306&#038;messageID=1348293" rel="nofollow">noticing</a> that there are patented influenza vaccines whose patents referred to H1N1 strains before this year and are using that to sell tinfoil hats.</p>
<p>Blame Canada.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/13/h1n1-2009-novel-swine-flu-thin/#comment-548428</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here we&#039;re calling it H1N1 as well. Our hospitals in NM are overwhelmed, as are our clinics.  I had to take my daughter in a couple weeks back because the schools (in all their infinite stupidity) required any child with flu symptoms to be tested for H1N1 before returning to school, and couldn&#039;t return for a week if positive.   The local hospitals, for the most part, have put a stop to that, but one of the hospitals still tests whoever walks through the door.

The Doctor who talked to us sent a faq to the school, which might have helped, but he also said that with so many kids sick and so much testing, they were still getting over 85% POSITIVE results for H1N1, so the thing to do is to assume if you have flu symptoms you have H1N1 and act accordingly.  He also stressed that &quot;accordingly&quot; was to behave as though it were any other seasonal flu, but to watch for complications.

Yesterday after my day surgery I walked into the ER (closest to the bus station) to use their plumbing.  The room was PACKED.  I&#039;ve never seen the ER that full before, and I go there a lot (unfortunately)... and for it to be a Monday morning, that was pretty incredible.

I think it&#039;s obvious that this is being handled poorly, and that the hospitals were never ready to handle a pandemic like this.  They need to be able to screen flu patients and the less ill from the ER unless there are obvious complications... perhaps set up a mobile unit or temporary flu triage in another location in the hospitals or clinics, even if they have to bring in portable classrooms from the school district or tents to do this.   There&#039;s no reason not to use nurse practitioners or even RNs rather than tying up doctors and ERs that should be dealing with more urgent needs.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we&#8217;re calling it H1N1 as well. Our hospitals in NM are overwhelmed, as are our clinics.  I had to take my daughter in a couple weeks back because the schools (in all their infinite stupidity) required any child with flu symptoms to be tested for H1N1 before returning to school, and couldn&#8217;t return for a week if positive.   The local hospitals, for the most part, have put a stop to that, but one of the hospitals still tests whoever walks through the door.</p>
<p>The Doctor who talked to us sent a faq to the school, which might have helped, but he also said that with so many kids sick and so much testing, they were still getting over 85% POSITIVE results for H1N1, so the thing to do is to assume if you have flu symptoms you have H1N1 and act accordingly.  He also stressed that &#8220;accordingly&#8221; was to behave as though it were any other seasonal flu, but to watch for complications.</p>
<p>Yesterday after my day surgery I walked into the ER (closest to the bus station) to use their plumbing.  The room was PACKED.  I&#8217;ve never seen the ER that full before, and I go there a lot (unfortunately)&#8230; and for it to be a Monday morning, that was pretty incredible.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s obvious that this is being handled poorly, and that the hospitals were never ready to handle a pandemic like this.  They need to be able to screen flu patients and the less ill from the ER unless there are obvious complications&#8230; perhaps set up a mobile unit or temporary flu triage in another location in the hospitals or clinics, even if they have to bring in portable classrooms from the school district or tents to do this.   There&#8217;s no reason not to use nurse practitioners or even RNs rather than tying up doctors and ERs that should be dealing with more urgent needs.  </p>
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		By: ERV		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/10/13/h1n1-2009-novel-swine-flu-thin/#comment-548427</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ERV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We called it swine flu.  Politicians changed it.

*shrug*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We called it swine flu.  Politicians changed it.</p>
<p>*shrug*</p>
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