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		By: No harm done		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/28/roman-polanski-may-visit-los-a/#comment-546934</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No harm done]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lets see she&#039;s 13 years old, but:
-is already sexually experienced
-has no trouble taking off her clothes for strangers
-knows what a quaalude looks like

Its obvious to me: what you have here is just your garden-variety teenage slut, doing what teenage sluts do.  Big deal.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see she&#8217;s 13 years old, but:<br />
-is already sexually experienced<br />
-has no trouble taking off her clothes for strangers<br />
-knows what a quaalude looks like</p>
<p>Its obvious to me: what you have here is just your garden-variety teenage slut, doing what teenage sluts do.  Big deal.  </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kristine, the plea transcript is here:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0928091polanskiplea1.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine, the plea transcript is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0928091polanskiplea1.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0928091polanskiplea1.html</a></p>
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		By: JosÃ©		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JosÃ©]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Kristine
I agree with your comment on the other post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kristine<br />
I agree with your comment on the other post.</p>
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		By: JosÃ©		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JosÃ©]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Kristine
Where did Roman Polanski say the things you claim?  I want to know exactly what he said so I can evaluate it for myself.  Maybe he did say those things, but all I have is your word.  So tell me where to look.  Was it in an interview?  In his memoirs?  Where?  I can&#039;t find it.  What&#039;s so  hard to understand?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kristine<br />
Where did Roman Polanski say the things you claim?  I want to know exactly what he said so I can evaluate it for myself.  Maybe he did say those things, but all I have is your word.  So tell me where to look.  Was it in an interview?  In his memoirs?  Where?  I can&#8217;t find it.  What&#8217;s so  hard to understand?</p>
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		By: JosÃ©		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/28/roman-polanski-may-visit-los-a/#comment-546930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JosÃ©]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Well, because you do, way up there when you compare her testimony to his and note that they are almost the same, except the poit of consent. &lt;/i&gt;

First of all, I said ALMOST.  Second, it&#039;s not in the plea.  Familiarize yourself with the source material before you comment.

&lt;i&gt;Jose, you are taking the moral crusader perspective.&lt;/i&gt;

No.  I don&#039;t know what should be done with Polanski in a legal sense.  I&#039;m just calling out people like you who seem to think there&#039;s some question about whether a sexual encounter even happened, as well as people who think he was set up. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well, because you do, way up there when you compare her testimony to his and note that they are almost the same, except the poit of consent. </i></p>
<p>First of all, I said ALMOST.  Second, it&#8217;s not in the plea.  Familiarize yourself with the source material before you comment.</p>
<p><i>Jose, you are taking the moral crusader perspective.</i></p>
<p>No.  I don&#8217;t know what should be done with Polanski in a legal sense.  I&#8217;m just calling out people like you who seem to think there&#8217;s some question about whether a sexual encounter even happened, as well as people who think he was set up. </p>
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		By: Kristine		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/28/roman-polanski-may-visit-los-a/#comment-546929</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jose - what are you talking about, &quot;It wasn&#039;t in the plea&quot;? Do you know what a plea bargain is and how it works? What are you looking at, if anything?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose &#8211; what are you talking about, &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t in the plea&#8221;? Do you know what a plea bargain is and how it works? What are you looking at, if anything?</p>
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		By: the real meme		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/28/roman-polanski-may-visit-los-a/#comment-546928</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the real meme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jose&#039; @ &quot;She requested a &quot;private&quot; shoot.

According to Polanski. Why do you accept what he said as fact?&quot;

Well, because you do, way up there when you compare her testimony to his and note that they are almost the same, except the poit of consent. Seems to me his word is good, based on YOU noting that it matches hers. Good enough for me.

Again, @100: You seem to be talking yourself into the position that there was some form of &#039;agreement&#039; whether that was the girls mother as a pimp ( as is SOOOO often the case in AMERICA in these situations) but also you say &quot;Nobody is exploiting and demonizing men,&quot; which could in a limited sense seem true in this situation--untill you bump into this wall: as Kristine pointed out, California is dying, and releasing 40 000 inmates into general population.

What this means is that a lot of these offenders are victims of that other moral crusade--the drug war--and those other men who were convicted as &#039;violent offenders&#039; even when no actual violence existed--are being replaced with a face for ANOTHER MORAL CRUSADE AGAINST &#039;VIOLENT MEN&#039; which is men being portrayed as as &quot;violent rapists&quot; even when no force or actual physical violence isn&#039;t used.

Jose, you are taking the moral crusader perspective.The moral crusaders are always just one thin wall, or one thin blue line away from being seen as exactly what they crusade against. 

Kristine: your perspective on this still rocccccks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose&#8217; @ &#8220;She requested a &#8220;private&#8221; shoot.</p>
<p>According to Polanski. Why do you accept what he said as fact?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, because you do, way up there when you compare her testimony to his and note that they are almost the same, except the poit of consent. Seems to me his word is good, based on YOU noting that it matches hers. Good enough for me.</p>
<p>Again, @100: You seem to be talking yourself into the position that there was some form of &#8216;agreement&#8217; whether that was the girls mother as a pimp ( as is SOOOO often the case in AMERICA in these situations) but also you say &#8220;Nobody is exploiting and demonizing men,&#8221; which could in a limited sense seem true in this situation&#8211;untill you bump into this wall: as Kristine pointed out, California is dying, and releasing 40 000 inmates into general population.</p>
<p>What this means is that a lot of these offenders are victims of that other moral crusade&#8211;the drug war&#8211;and those other men who were convicted as &#8216;violent offenders&#8217; even when no actual violence existed&#8211;are being replaced with a face for ANOTHER MORAL CRUSADE AGAINST &#8216;VIOLENT MEN&#8217; which is men being portrayed as as &#8220;violent rapists&#8221; even when no force or actual physical violence isn&#8217;t used.</p>
<p>Jose, you are taking the moral crusader perspective.The moral crusaders are always just one thin wall, or one thin blue line away from being seen as exactly what they crusade against. </p>
<p>Kristine: your perspective on this still rocccccks!</p>
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		By: Enoch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enoch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kammy: I am guessing only.  That people who are saying &quot;let bygones be bygones&quot; devalue the importance of the violent act of a rape and are seeing Polanski&#039;s behavior back then as part of the sexual revolution that perhaps went a bit astray but that is understandable.  But I disagree that it is understandable to trick a 13 year old girl and the force oneself on her as it seems he did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kammy: I am guessing only.  That people who are saying &#8220;let bygones be bygones&#8221; devalue the importance of the violent act of a rape and are seeing Polanski&#8217;s behavior back then as part of the sexual revolution that perhaps went a bit astray but that is understandable.  But I disagree that it is understandable to trick a 13 year old girl and the force oneself on her as it seems he did.</p>
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		By: Kammy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kammy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Enoch &quot;Some people seem to be confusing a sense of sexual liberation (or a desire for it) and sexual molestation.&quot;

Could you explain what you mean by that? It&#039;s very cryptic and doesn&#039;t make a point. Which people seem to be confusing a sense of sexual liberation and molestation? Who&#039;s sense of sexual liberation are we talking about here? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Enoch &#8220;Some people seem to be confusing a sense of sexual liberation (or a desire for it) and sexual molestation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could you explain what you mean by that? It&#8217;s very cryptic and doesn&#8217;t make a point. Which people seem to be confusing a sense of sexual liberation and molestation? Who&#8217;s sense of sexual liberation are we talking about here? </p>
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		By: Irene		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/28/roman-polanski-may-visit-los-a/#comment-546925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kristine makes some good points.  I had no idea the liklihood of the mother&#039;s intentions possibly having been met at the end of the day. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine makes some good points.  I had no idea the liklihood of the mother&#8217;s intentions possibly having been met at the end of the day. </p>
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