Comments on: Ninety One Percent of Canadians believe that their heath care system is better than that of the US. https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/ Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:00:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Dan J https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545141 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:00:09 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545141 Keep talking, Doug. You’re making some of us get closer to the edge where we decide whether it’s worth more to us to fight for what we should have here, or give up and go to where it already exists.

The fact that I even consider such a statement is a sad testimony to the idiocy of the ultra-conservative right wing.

]]> By: Doug Alder https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545140 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:52:44 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545140 Stephanie – you’re right (well duh!) 🙂 if it wasn’t for people like Mike we might get complacent. Then again if it weren’t for people like Mike you Americans might have a nice country worth visiting again.

As a 60 year old Canadian I can say without a doubt that we have one of the best health care systems in the world. Does it have problems – sure, no system is without problems. Does it work, absolutely. Of course I’m a little biased because due to serious health issues as a child I wouldn’t be alive today if I had grown up in the US – my parents were poor and could never have afforded US style insurance premiums.

AS it was the year or so I spent in the hospital cost them $1/day for the semi-private room I was in. That’s it. Gosh they got to keep their house and I got to keep living, wow what an evil system it is.

]]> By: Stephanie Z https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545139 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:21:52 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545139 Mike, it’s so kind of you to keep showing up and providing blatant, tangible evidence of the bigotry of the right wing.

]]> By: Dan J https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545138 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:00:11 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545138 There will always be room for private facilities. I’m also of the opinion that there will always be groups who want to see less room for government supplied facilities or programs.

How many US Army Privates go on KP duty these days? Oh, that’s right. Haliburton (or a subsidiary) handles all that sort of thing. How cost effective is it? I’d guess that it isn’t, just as today’s health insurance system in the US is not cost effective (unless you happen to work for one of the insurance companies).

]]> By: Jason Thibeault https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545137 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:57:27 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545137 Yes, there is a small, but vocal, minority that wants us to have American-style health care. There’s actually a couple of for-profit hospitals in Ontario, in fact. Check the second video here: http://www.lousycanuck.ca/?p=1613

]]> By: Stephanie Z https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545136 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:51:11 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545136 Paul, more than 9% of people don’t like chocolate–or free beer. There are no universals.

]]> By: Paul S. https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545135 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:45:57 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545135 I wonder about the 9% who don’t like it – that’s actually a pretty substantial minority against a system that’s supposed to be “universally popular”.

]]> By: Jason Thibeault https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545134 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:24:34 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545134 Nobody asked us Canucks to stick our noses into the healthcare debate where we’re used primarily as counterexamples to the efficacy of ZOMG SOCIALISM. Hilarious! You point to us as some kind of proof that socialism doesn’t work, and yet we all love our health care so much. Except for that 9% that wants to privatize — that number is likely made up of a conservative coterie of mostly-doctors.

Forget the fact that our extraordinarily low incidence of horror stories runs drastically counter to the extraordinarily high incidence of American horror stories. For every one mistake we Canucks have made with health care (and we’re only human!), I could find you a hundred of American not-mistakes, but intentionally crafted horror stories designed to maximize profits for a few very very rich people.

Also — oooh. Frenchie. You’re so clever, realizing I’m bilingual. Not that I’m trying to speak French to you here at all. And not that being bilingual is a *bad* thing, except in the right wing’s collective minds, wherein knowledge is horrible.

]]> By: Dan J https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545133 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:17:30 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545133 Yeah, Stephanie, I forgot to touch on that part.

Since the title of the post is “Ninety One Percent of Canadians believe that their heath care system is better than that of the US“, it would seem to make sense that the opinions of fine Canadian citizens like Jason are of the utmost import to the discussion.

I still feel flattered that Mikey took the time to check out my photo. *blush*

]]> By: Dan J https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545132 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:12:48 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/15/ninety-one-percent-of-canadian/#comment-545132 Gosh, Mike, the way you talk about my supple body makes me wonder about your sexual proclivities as well. I may have to change some of my opinions about you.

Now, if you’d like to discuss the health care issue while sticking to the facts… Oh, wait: You’ve already shown us that you’re unable to do that (Like most other conservatives). Forget I said anything.

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