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	Comments on: Kanye West: Uncivil Rebel or Obnoxious Lover of Goats?	</title>
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		By: Elastic Planet		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545089</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elastic Planet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know this is completely anecdotal, but I work in the music industry and know a few people that have worked directly with Kanye.  Or at least they tried to.  He has a reputation for being the biggest jackass in the business.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is completely anecdotal, but I work in the music industry and know a few people that have worked directly with Kanye.  Or at least they tried to.  He has a reputation for being the biggest jackass in the business.  </p>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545088</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[His interview on Leno was great follow-up. Leno mentioned that he&#039;d met Kanye West&#039;s mom before she died, and asked Kanye what his mom would have said about his thing at the MTV awards. That clearly was a wake-up call to Kanye that what he did was really, really stupid.

Video is here:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621529/20090914/west_kanye.jhtml
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His interview on Leno was great follow-up. Leno mentioned that he&#8217;d met Kanye West&#8217;s mom before she died, and asked Kanye what his mom would have said about his thing at the MTV awards. That clearly was a wake-up call to Kanye that what he did was really, really stupid.</p>
<p>Video is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621529/20090914/west_kanye.jhtml" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621529/20090914/west_kanye.jhtml</a></p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545087</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pundit:  Thanks, noted.  It was like 3 in the AM.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pundit:  Thanks, noted.  It was like 3 in the AM.  </p>
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		By: The Science Pundit		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545086</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Science Pundit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Rather than reading the pablum provided by the cue cards, he launched a poorly done but heart-felt monologue about the plight of black people in New Orleans, and was finally cut off by the producers when he stated, quite plainly, &quot;George Bush hates black people.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just to nitpick, he quite plainly stated &quot;George Bush doesn&#039;t care about black people.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rather than reading the pablum provided by the cue cards, he launched a poorly done but heart-felt monologue about the plight of black people in New Orleans, and was finally cut off by the producers when he stated, quite plainly, &#8220;George Bush hates black people.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Just to nitpick, he quite plainly stated &#8220;George Bush doesn&#8217;t care about black people.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545085</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MadScientists:  I have no doubt that he was right at the MTV awards.  I mean, they WERE giving the award to a country western singer....

The problem here is not that he was right or wrong, the problem is that you can&#039;t interrupt the awards ceremony and get invited to the next awards ceremony.  Therefore, he is no longer a factor.  He&#039;s not going to get invited to a fundraiser anymore because he told the truth about the racial disparity in New Orleans. That was worth it.  Now, he&#039;s not going to get invited to an awards ceremony any more (and those are the BIGGEST audiences generally) because he dissed a country western singer to promote an already totally famous super-privileged buddy of his.  

So, he has tactics but no strategy.  

He is the award ceremony version of an internet troll.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadScientists:  I have no doubt that he was right at the MTV awards.  I mean, they WERE giving the award to a country western singer&#8230;.</p>
<p>The problem here is not that he was right or wrong, the problem is that you can&#8217;t interrupt the awards ceremony and get invited to the next awards ceremony.  Therefore, he is no longer a factor.  He&#8217;s not going to get invited to a fundraiser anymore because he told the truth about the racial disparity in New Orleans. That was worth it.  Now, he&#8217;s not going to get invited to an awards ceremony any more (and those are the BIGGEST audiences generally) because he dissed a country western singer to promote an already totally famous super-privileged buddy of his.  </p>
<p>So, he has tactics but no strategy.  </p>
<p>He is the award ceremony version of an internet troll.  </p>
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		By: Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545084</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe he was just jealous that someone came up with a video more creative than half-naked girls dancing around?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he was just jealous that someone came up with a video more creative than half-naked girls dancing around?</p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545083</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MadScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, come on, he was right at the MTV awards.  How can he be wrong?  Just look at the picture on Rolling Stones - can&#039;t you see Kanye is god? Or in the words of the catholic church, Kanye is god&#039;s masochistic tortured and murdered son who isn&#039;t really dead because he got better after a few days and isn&#039;t really quite just a son because he&#039;s really part of god - it&#039;s all very kinky and confused and I&#039;m pretty sure the bible mentions something about goats too, so Kanye fits in perfectly - which is lucky for the goat because that means the goat won&#039;t really be that sore after all because the goat will fit just like a kid glove, and that&#039;s why catholic priests love children so much, because they fit like goats.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on, he was right at the MTV awards.  How can he be wrong?  Just look at the picture on Rolling Stones &#8211; can&#8217;t you see Kanye is god? Or in the words of the catholic church, Kanye is god&#8217;s masochistic tortured and murdered son who isn&#8217;t really dead because he got better after a few days and isn&#8217;t really quite just a son because he&#8217;s really part of god &#8211; it&#8217;s all very kinky and confused and I&#8217;m pretty sure the bible mentions something about goats too, so Kanye fits in perfectly &#8211; which is lucky for the goat because that means the goat won&#8217;t really be that sore after all because the goat will fit just like a kid glove, and that&#8217;s why catholic priests love children so much, because they fit like goats.</p>
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		By: Nelson Muntz		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545082</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nelson Muntz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I much prefer Kanye West as a character on South Park. His ensuing &#039;humble&#039; rant, IN ALL CAPS, was hilarious, as was the trashing he got for SHOUTING.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I much prefer Kanye West as a character on South Park. His ensuing &#8216;humble&#8217; rant, IN ALL CAPS, was hilarious, as was the trashing he got for SHOUTING.</p>
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		By: Galen Evans		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/15/kanye-west-uncivil-rebel-or-ob/#comment-545081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Galen Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ &quot;If you are going to operate in that territory between unquestioning civility and abject goat fucking, don&#039;t be Kanye West.&quot; 


Priceless. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8220;If you are going to operate in that territory between unquestioning civility and abject goat fucking, don&#8217;t be Kanye West.&#8221; </p>
<p>Priceless. </p>
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