Comments on: The Day the Right Wing Lost Its Last Shred of Moral Standing https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/ Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:41:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Bob https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544574 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:41:28 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544574 Heh. “Headshot” Mike H is quickly wearing out his welcome on Scienceblogs.

]]> By: Danimal https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544573 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:47:02 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544573 @Greg Laden: I did not know you were aware of the context I just pointed it out in case you were not. I know that I was not aware of the context until after I read your post and saw the video. Have you followed the links provided on the bottom of the wikipedia page to other black bloc pages? Anyways my only statement is that I can see why the authorities became concerned after seeing the video. Unlike me, who until today did not know what a black bloc was, the authorities probably had the Seattle WTO protests fresh in their minds.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544572 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:18:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544572 Why would you think that I’m unaware of the context? Why would YOU think that planning (if proven, which it was not) to break a window is a crime sufficiently bad to be sent to jail for the rest of your life? Ten windows even.

And, the bottom line: If there was really a serious crime, how come there are no serious convictions? The serious charges were all dropped last April when the DA finally backed off. They called those charges “distractions” and dropped them. How come 300,000 dollars of funding and thousands of hours of police work including weeks of surveillance before and after produced essentially nothing?

No, Daminal. The fact that you can get scared enough by a wikipedia page to assert that these kids should spend the rest of their lives in jail is outrageous. I think you need to rethink the way you think about these things. I mean, seriously, we can disagree on whether or not civil disobedience is OK or what is too much, but that is not what this is about at all.

]]> By: Stephanie Z https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544571 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:18:03 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544571 Danimal, you always afraid of crowds, or just crowds that offer first aid to people hit by tear gas and that are targeted for harassment by police?

]]> By: Danimal https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544570 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:00:32 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544570 Greg, I read the post and watched the video and thought it was funny. Then I read this about Black blocs and the video no longer looks funny. I now understand why the police took the precautions they did. I encourage you to read the page and then watch the video again.

]]> By: Rich Wilson https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544569 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:00:29 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544569

Seriously, conservatives must be the most cowardly people on the planet.

Seriously, there’s a really good TED talk on the differences between liberals and conservatives.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html

It ain’t fear or cowardice.

]]> By: Wyatt https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544568 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:00:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544568 his blog

HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!

I especially love the guy on the bike who gets pushed into the canyon by the irate bystanders. Can we push Mike H into the canyon?

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544567 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:38:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544567 Oh pretty please tell me Greg?

Mike: You are a termite choking on the splinters.

Everyone else: Mike is now required to be nice to everybody. The moment he’s not he’s deleted. So please report any violations by Mike to me.

In the mean time, you might consider heading over to his blog (he has one, you know) and telling him what you think over there because I’d rather not see it here. If you know what I mean. As it were.

]]> By: JThompson https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544566 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:54:09 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544566 @Rich Wilson: Well he’s a silly little conservative, so the answer to your question would be “All of it.”
Seriously, conservatives must be the most cowardly people on the planet. They spend their entire lives in a state of utter fucking panic. Even when they’re not going batshit crazy over some imaginary cause to take away their privilege, they’re worrying a black man is going to mug them. I’m glad I don’t have to live like that.

]]> By: Gray Gaffer https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544565 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:31:51 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/09/09/the-day-the-right-wing-lost-it/#comment-544565 Yes, how much?

Let’s do a risk+cost/benefit analysis here, shall we?

1: # American civilians killed by terrorists: ~5000 (total)
killed by vehicles: ~45000/yr
lives destroyed by excessive police action: ~1,000,000 (in prison now for harmless victimless ‘crimes’)

2: Doubling security expenditures would affect these how?
Terrorism: not at all
vehicles: not at all
police action: doubled to 2,000,000 imprisoned for harmless victimless ‘crimes’

So, which way would you go then?

For me, it is quite clear. Get out of their country, their lives, their finances, and out of dependence on their oil. We win on every front, including freeing up the cost of security forces for common goods.

Trouble is, when money is moving, there are fat cats sucking up the turbulence, and they hold the reins of power in this sad world, and use it to maintain their tasty status quo. I have no answer for fixing that.

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