The above link takes you to the GRE data, which while not a pure IQ test per se, seems to match up rather well with IQ data. When I took the GRE in the late 80’s they showed roughly the same data, teachers were the lowest rated of anyone going to grad school. Back then the analytical was multiple choice vice written, so engineers like me tended to do well and quantitative and analytical (I got 800 on both) and then my verbal was off, like 680 I think.

anyway, that correlates to an IQ on the high side of 160 for me. my mom, a nurse, scores around 145 on IQ tests.

At least in America, nurses and engineers seem to draw high IQ people who are not to the manor born, while lawyers and doctors tend to be more born to money.

Funny thing I just saw about the Law Schools in CA, they are adding .3333 to all students GPA so they can get a better job. The argument being, they paid $150,000 for a law degree, they better be able to get a job. So there you have it, law school particularly is seen as a way to buy your kid a good job. Can’t imagine an engineering school doing that…

SCORES ON THE WECHSLER BELLEVUE SCALE IN RELATION TO OCCUPATION
Group N Range 10% Q-1 Median Q-3 90%
Engineers – 52
Full 116-148 121 127 133 135 140
Verbal 110-144 120 125 130 136 140
Performance 114-145 119 124 129 133 137
Professionals I – 52
Full 113-141 120 126 132 134 137
Verbal 109-144 121 126 134 136 141
Performance 99-137 115 119 124 129 132
Educators – 45
Full 104-141 118 123 129 134 137
Verbal 106-143 112 123 129 134 137
Performance 95-139 112 117 125 132 135
Professionals II – 61
Full 106-143 117 123 128 133 138
Verbal 112-143 117 123 128 132 137
Performance 94-141 111 118 124 129 136
Teachers – 421
Full 94-152 114 120 126 132 137
Verbal 94-145 113 120 126 131 137
Performance 83-161 108 115 123 130 134
Social Service – 66
Full 108-145 117 121 125 132 135
Verbal 105-145 114 118 124 133 136
Performance 95-146 106 113 122 129 134
Managers – 134
Full 92-146 113 120 125 130 136
Verbal 81-140 110 118 124 131 135
Performance 91-154 109 115 122 129 135
Nurses – 191
Full 93-141 113 118 124 128 132
Verbal 99-143 110 115 121 127 131
Performance 78-145 102 114 125 130 136
Arts – 62
Full 74-147 109 117 124 131 138
Verbal 73-142 107 115 120 127 136
Performance 78-145 102 114 125 130 136
Sales – 153
Full 95-142 105 112 122 128 132
Verbal 93-143 101 111 120 128 133
Performance 93-144 103 111 118 125 130
Secretaries – 107
Full 92-135 108 114 121 125 130
Verbal 94-134 107 114 120 125 130
Performance 88-136 102 108 118 126 129
Bookkeepers – 55
Full 99-137 105 109 117 125 129
Verbal 98-141 102 107 115 125 129
Performance 94-141 101 107 114 120 125
Clerks – 128
Full 74-140 97 105 116 122 131
Verbal 76-145 99 106 117 122 127
Performance 69-140 94 103 114 121 129
Office Workers – 62
Full 88-139 99 108 116 123 128
Verbal 89-135 98 104 113 122 127
Performance 81-141 97 106 115 124 128
Skilled Labor – 107
Full 87-139 103 110 115 123 127
Verbal 82-136 98 106 114 120 127
Performance 93-136 102 108 117 122 126
Personal Service – 57
Full 54-130 79 92 106 113 122
Verbal 59-132 80 90 104 115 121
Performance 54-129 84 99 105 114 119

Professionals I — physicians, dentists, lawyers
Educators — college deans and instructors, high school and grammar school principals
Professionals II — pharmacists, accountants
Social Service — social workers, clergy
Managers — small business owners, retail store managers, office managers, foremen
business executives, small manufacturers.
Arts — singers, dancers, musicians, actors, artists, designers, commercial artists
Sales — all inside and outside sales people, wholesale and retail
Office Workers — stenographers, comptometer operators, typists, receptionists,
telephone switchboard operators
Skilled Labor — machinists, automobile and aircraft mechanics, radio and television
repairmen, plumbers, electricians
Personal Service — barbers, beauticians, waiters, food handlers, soda fountain
attendants, domestics

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I would tend to think – and if I end up in academia, I may get the chance to actually test my hypothesis – that rather than intelligence going down as we age, we simply become too distracted to reasonably take the damned test. Given time and focus, I end up with one score – just taking one without such focus, it comes out lower. And since I have gone back to school, I am able to score about where I was at thirteen.

But really, even if I am incorrect, given what we understand about IQ now, there is little reason to give a whole lot of credence to studies that integrate IQ. Unless the goal is to seek out factors that will level the playing field, all it is doing is restating the obvious – people with certain advantages in life are going to manage better on IQ tests. The thing is, we know this is the case and we even have a pretty good idea what to emphasize with children to level the field – reading to and with children – encouraging them to write – talking to them – encourage them to listen to people talking and encourage them to think about what has been communicated to them.

Now when someone wants to do a study on that, we have something useful coming out of the IQ discussion. Until then, it is just more of the same old fucking bullshit.

And Madscientist, that was more than asshole – that was fucking obnoxious, apology or not.

And, curiously, a garbage collection is now a computer science term. 🙂 Things have come full circle, or… something. An infinite loop perhaps. I’m very tired.

Yeah, I’m snarking, but still. Sheesh. We’re so picked on despite giving the world the iPhone, the Hoover Dam and the Audi TT RS. Others are probably right about the UK version of the word engineer, though. Although I wouldn’t bad mouth doctors or lawyers. Well, OK, maybe lawyers, but not doctors. I’d totally be a Dr. Gregory House if I became a doctor and get sued for rudeness every week.