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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/12/blogger-in-antarctica-contest/#comment-541841</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She can move to second place easily.  It&#039;s that first place guy that bothers me.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She can move to second place easily.  It&#8217;s that first place guy that bothers me.  </p>
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		By: Bob O'H		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(Oops, shjould have followed this...)
&lt;blockquote&gt;Bob, are you serious?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mormontimes.com/mormon_voices/don_osmond/?id=9954&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yep&lt;/a&gt;.  I applied a bit of Google foo to his name, and was somewhat surprised...

Grrl is still in third place, BTW.  Booo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Oops, shjould have followed this&#8230;)</p>
<blockquote><p>Bob, are you serious?</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.mormontimes.com/mormon_voices/don_osmond/?id=9954" rel="nofollow">Yep</a>.  I applied a bit of Google foo to his name, and was somewhat surprised&#8230;</p>
<p>Grrl is still in third place, BTW.  Booo!</p>
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		By: Will		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/12/blogger-in-antarctica-contest/#comment-541839</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was at The South Pole at sunrise last year....witnessed a prolonged &quot;green flash&quot;.

I haven&#039;t read too deeply about Quark&#039;s expedition, but it will likely be a typical cruise route....which means it will spend quite a bit of time north of the Antarctic Circle - even if it does go south of the circle, the furthest south navigable waters are at about 77 degrees - long way from The South Pole]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at The South Pole at sunrise last year&#8230;.witnessed a prolonged &#8220;green flash&#8221;.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read too deeply about Quark&#8217;s expedition, but it will likely be a typical cruise route&#8230;.which means it will spend quite a bit of time north of the Antarctic Circle &#8211; even if it does go south of the circle, the furthest south navigable waters are at about 77 degrees &#8211; long way from The South Pole</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll have to ask my good friend who has been in Antarctica for months (is still there now) and will be returning about the time all these whimps who go down during the southern summer arrive. 

Bob, are you serious? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to ask my good friend who has been in Antarctica for months (is still there now) and will be returning about the time all these whimps who go down during the southern summer arrive. </p>
<p>Bob, are you serious? </p>
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		By: Bob O'H		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/12/blogger-in-antarctica-contest/#comment-541837</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do a bit of googling about the guy in second place, Don Osmond.  He&#039;s the son of Donny Osmond (and a mormon to boot).

To be fair, I do have slightly more interest than most in Grrlscientist winning: she&#039;ll be taking my camera if she wins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do a bit of googling about the guy in second place, Don Osmond.  He&#8217;s the son of Donny Osmond (and a mormon to boot).</p>
<p>To be fair, I do have slightly more interest than most in Grrlscientist winning: she&#8217;ll be taking my camera if she wins.</p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/12/blogger-in-antarctica-contest/#comment-541836</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Nathan Myers: According to Marcel Minnaert (~1928):

&quot;During Byrd&#039;s expedition to the South Pole, the green ray was observed for 35 minutes, while the sun, rising for the first time at the close of a long polar night, was moving exactly along the horizon.&quot;

So there you go - as long as the atmospheric conditions are right for the green flash and the sun is in the correct position just below the horizon, you may see a prolonged flash at the poles.  However, I&#039;d like to point out that the planned expedition will arrive around the middle of the summer when the sun is above the horizon all day. If the sun at least dips low enough around midnight there may be a chance of observing the ray if conditions are good and you can duck behind a nearby object such as a rock (which a number of people have testified to, although such testimony remains rare).  Minnaert himself wrote that he could observe the flash for longer if he could run up the incline on a dyke.  Anecdotally, the best conditions are at times with very low aerosol loading; I wonder if the flash is observed less frequently in the northern hemisphere now that aerosols are so plentiful that the sky turns whitish rather than simply blue.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nathan Myers: According to Marcel Minnaert (~1928):</p>
<p>&#8220;During Byrd&#8217;s expedition to the South Pole, the green ray was observed for 35 minutes, while the sun, rising for the first time at the close of a long polar night, was moving exactly along the horizon.&#8221;</p>
<p>So there you go &#8211; as long as the atmospheric conditions are right for the green flash and the sun is in the correct position just below the horizon, you may see a prolonged flash at the poles.  However, I&#8217;d like to point out that the planned expedition will arrive around the middle of the summer when the sun is above the horizon all day. If the sun at least dips low enough around midnight there may be a chance of observing the ray if conditions are good and you can duck behind a nearby object such as a rock (which a number of people have testified to, although such testimony remains rare).  Minnaert himself wrote that he could observe the flash for longer if he could run up the incline on a dyke.  Anecdotally, the best conditions are at times with very low aerosol loading; I wonder if the flash is observed less frequently in the northern hemisphere now that aerosols are so plentiful that the sky turns whitish rather than simply blue.</p>
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		By: DD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[intereting uninterloping internetting intersecting underwearing antarcticating bloggers unite!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>intereting uninterloping internetting intersecting underwearing antarcticating bloggers unite!</p>
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		By: Nathan Myers		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/12/blogger-in-antarctica-contest/#comment-541834</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Myers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wondered whether the fabled &quot;green flash&quot; at sundown could last a long time -- minutes? -- in Antarctica, around the equinox.  I found somebody there to e-mail and ask about it.  &lt;i&gt;He&lt;/i&gt; hadn&#039;t seen it happen, but said somebody else he knew who spent a lot of time out on the ice had.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered whether the fabled &#8220;green flash&#8221; at sundown could last a long time &#8212; minutes? &#8212; in Antarctica, around the equinox.  I found somebody there to e-mail and ask about it.  <i>He</i> hadn&#8217;t seen it happen, but said somebody else he knew who spent a lot of time out on the ice had.</p>
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