Comments on: OK, time to ban handguns. Are you with me? https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/ Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:24:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Bob O'Bob https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541483 Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:24:55 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541483 â??The media insist that crime is the major concern of the American public today. In this connection they generally push the point that a disarmed society would be a crime-free society. They will not accept the truth that if you take all the guns off the street you still will have a crime problem, whereas if you take the criminals off the street you cannot have a gun problem.â?

-Jeff Cooper

]]> By: Jens Nyborg https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541482 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 23:24:02 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541482 Does America want to be a civilised country?
I’m not American, but I love America for a lot of very good reasons. The right to bear firearms is NOT one of them.
I’ve just watched the 2003 movie ‘The jury’, and that made me look out for how many sane voices about US guns you could find.

I’m amazed it seems everybody with a penchant for guns are talking about violent crime, deterrence an so forth.

Nobody seems to have touched on the point that most of the people killed by guns in the US are killed/hurt by unpremediated killing by a gun used in affect.

This would to my mind include all the high scool killings as parents’ guns are used in most cases. I wonder, but do definetely not want to know how a parent feels in that case.

By banning guns, that sort of crime could be removed. Is that not desirable? And civilised ?

Love, Jens

]]> By: kiramatali shah https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541481 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:53:48 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541481 How many handguns are legally sold each year in the US? How many are used to commit violent crimes? How many people who do not use handguns to commit crimes would be affected by banning handguns. Will the banning of handguns stop violent crimes?

http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com

]]> By: kiramatali shah https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541480 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:49:19 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541480 How many handguns are legally sold each year in the US? How many are used to commit violent crimes? How many people who do not use handguns to commit crimes would be affected by banning handguns. Will the banning of handguns stop violent crimes?

http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com

]]> By: micheleinmichigan https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541479 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:23:03 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541479 A call to arms (or de-arms as it were) with no link to the news article and no link to a gun control fund-raising site?

I can only assume that Greg posted this to draw in all the militia nutcases so that he can plant viruses on their hard drives that track their movements and send out subliminal liberal brainwashing messages. That is, before they are dragged away to the internment camps.

For those of you who think this is a mental health issue. Here’s the link to National Alliance for the Mentally Ill. Put your money where your mouth is. http://www.nami.org

From what I’ve read, the guy could communicate rationally, not hallucinating, he knew right from wrong, he was functional at a job. He is not someone who could ever be picked out by a law that excludes the mentally ill from purchasing guns. (Unless you want to subject all single guys who don’t talk to their neighbors to random search and seizure.)

For those of you who want to contribute to gun control. Here’s a link. http://www.bradycampaign.org I’m not part of either of these organizations.

or write your senator or representative.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541478 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:42:43 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541478 n005, we are not talking about “innocent” or “guilty” … we are talking about the proposition that our society does not raise up most of its people to be trusted with owning hand guns, and there are certain weapons that are simply not appropriate for private ownership. Between these two easily demonstrable facts that most people will agree with, restriction on owners hip of guns is reasonable. This does not make people who want to collect automatic weapons or who want to walk around with two hand guns strapped to them just to make a point criminals. Wanting to do that is not a criminal act.

But it should be the case that actually doing it is a criminal act.

Yes, there will be a period of adjustment, but you’ll be fine. You can keep the long guns under a certain caliber that are not automatic. K?

]]> By: n005 https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541477 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:07:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541477 Innocent hobbyist gun collectors are a perfectly sufficient reason NOT to ban handguns. This is how things work in a free country. “Innocent until proven guilty” is the law in a free country, and does not cease to apply just because a gun is involved.

It doesn’t matter how many statistics you rake up to show how many people get killed where guns are allowed/prohibited. It’s still “innocent until proven guilty” in this country, and once you start breaking the law in order to lay down the law, then there is no law, and then nobody’s rights, be they gun rights, or any other kind of rights, are safe.

And no, you can’t make someone guilty with a paper decree. That’s what our constitutional prohibition against bills of attainder is all about.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541476 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:06:39 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541476 Stephanie, Rick hails from Queensland, Australia.

]]> By: Stephanie Z https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541475 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:47:50 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541475 rick, I don’t know whether you’ve noticed, but we’re at war right now and have been for years. You enlisted yet?

]]> By: rick https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541474 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:50:31 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/08/05/ok-time-to-ban-handguns-are-yo/#comment-541474 In the times that we live in this fool tries to tell us to ban guns he is either stupid a woman or a gay boy….my grandfather died in a war so arse-ole’s like this could live,I just hope his kind are limited in numbers,when we go to war again which we will please send this prick to the front,but dont give him a gun,give him a water pistol

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