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		By: Susan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/30/overheard-at-airport/#comment-540878</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 08:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is funny.  There are some far bigger holes in security than that though!  Did you hear about the guy who shut down Newark Airport when he crossed a security corden to give his girlfriend a kiss?  The guard had just walked away from his station.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is funny.  There are some far bigger holes in security than that though!  Did you hear about the guy who shut down Newark Airport when he crossed a security corden to give his girlfriend a kiss?  The guard had just walked away from his station.</p>
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		By: Moe Miou		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/30/overheard-at-airport/#comment-540877</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moe Miou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of TSA personnel training takes place in Denver Colorado.
I can assure you that no officer at DIA will say what the TSA officer of this story said.
http://www.bayleeslimousinedenver.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of TSA personnel training takes place in Denver Colorado.<br />
I can assure you that no officer at DIA will say what the TSA officer of this story said.<br />
<a href="http://www.bayleeslimousinedenver.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bayleeslimousinedenver.com</a></p>
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		By: Airport Service		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/30/overheard-at-airport/#comment-540876</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Airport Service]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great Post!Actually,We will Find Limousine Service To and From Any Airport. Featuring Ground Transportation Service by Limos, Town Cars, Taxis, Shuttle Buses.For more details follow the Link:

  http://www.airportservice.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post!Actually,We will Find Limousine Service To and From Any Airport. Featuring Ground Transportation Service by Limos, Town Cars, Taxis, Shuttle Buses.For more details follow the Link:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.airportservice.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.airportservice.com</a></p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fredric,

You are probably right.  However,  I do want to point out that none of the comments in this thread about &quot;treatment&quot; would have ever been made if the commenters were present at the time. Now, to some extent this is because I did not describe the conversation with the kind of detail one would need to know that at no point could the employee ever have been offended at what I said.  That is not because I did not describe the event well, but rather, because I did not describe the even that way because it was not my intention to do so.  

So the comments are interesting and the argument is valid (and I tend to side with Fredric on this) but none of this has anything to do with what happened.

Therefore, this whole discussion also serves as an example of something else.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fredric,</p>
<p>You are probably right.  However,  I do want to point out that none of the comments in this thread about &#8220;treatment&#8221; would have ever been made if the commenters were present at the time. Now, to some extent this is because I did not describe the conversation with the kind of detail one would need to know that at no point could the employee ever have been offended at what I said.  That is not because I did not describe the event well, but rather, because I did not describe the even that way because it was not my intention to do so.  </p>
<p>So the comments are interesting and the argument is valid (and I tend to side with Fredric on this) but none of this has anything to do with what happened.</p>
<p>Therefore, this whole discussion also serves as an example of something else.  </p>
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		By: Fredric L. Rice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fredric L. Rice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t agree that employees should be immune from being asked or questioned about stupid, pointless, or criminal policies they&#039;re told to commit, likewise I don&#039;t think that employees should be immune from &lt;b&gt;ridicule&lt;/b&gt; about the stupid, pointless, or criminal policies they&#039;re told to commit.

When fascist violations of our rights, liberties, and freedoms is being inflicted upon us by mindless, under-paid drones &quot;merely following orders,&quot; even minor resistance and ridicule is wholly legitimate.  By making the mindless drones hate their jobs, the fascist State must pay better wages or find someone even dumber to take the job -- which leads to further stupid acts committed against us which leads to greater exposure of the fascism and its underlying stupidity.

Provisional respect is automatically granted as the defacto mode of behavior in Westernized socities however respect is something that either has to be earned or has to be exhibited as deserved.

People grant provisional respect and when it&#039;s shown that someone is not deserving of respect, respect is retracted. That&#039;s the way the human species operates, hard-wired in to our brains.

So it is with people who prostitute themselves by serving a fascist regime; they have already evidenced themselves as undeserving of any respect for what they do, and pointing out the stupidity of what they&#039;re doing becomes a matter of duty.

My opinions only, and only my opinions, as always.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree that employees should be immune from being asked or questioned about stupid, pointless, or criminal policies they&#8217;re told to commit, likewise I don&#8217;t think that employees should be immune from <b>ridicule</b> about the stupid, pointless, or criminal policies they&#8217;re told to commit.</p>
<p>When fascist violations of our rights, liberties, and freedoms is being inflicted upon us by mindless, under-paid drones &#8220;merely following orders,&#8221; even minor resistance and ridicule is wholly legitimate.  By making the mindless drones hate their jobs, the fascist State must pay better wages or find someone even dumber to take the job &#8212; which leads to further stupid acts committed against us which leads to greater exposure of the fascism and its underlying stupidity.</p>
<p>Provisional respect is automatically granted as the defacto mode of behavior in Westernized socities however respect is something that either has to be earned or has to be exhibited as deserved.</p>
<p>People grant provisional respect and when it&#8217;s shown that someone is not deserving of respect, respect is retracted. That&#8217;s the way the human species operates, hard-wired in to our brains.</p>
<p>So it is with people who prostitute themselves by serving a fascist regime; they have already evidenced themselves as undeserving of any respect for what they do, and pointing out the stupidity of what they&#8217;re doing becomes a matter of duty.</p>
<p>My opinions only, and only my opinions, as always.</p>
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		By: Gryff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gryff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I look forward with gleeful anticipation to the day where an Amercian TSA agent asks me (British) to remove my &quot;pants&quot;. 

I shall remove my *trousers* and hand over my _underpants_ whilst looking them straight in the eye.

&quot;Be careful what you wish for...you might get it!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward with gleeful anticipation to the day where an Amercian TSA agent asks me (British) to remove my &#8220;pants&#8221;. </p>
<p>I shall remove my *trousers* and hand over my _underpants_ whilst looking them straight in the eye.</p>
<p>&#8220;Be careful what you wish for&#8230;you might get it!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Sureo		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/30/overheard-at-airport/#comment-540872</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sureo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many years ago at work they posted a large sign saying &quot;Is your badge visible?&quot;. I couldn&#039;t help writing on the sign, &quot;Have you ever seen an invisible badge?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago at work they posted a large sign saying &#8220;Is your badge visible?&#8221;. I couldn&#8217;t help writing on the sign, &#8220;Have you ever seen an invisible badge?&#8221;</p>
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		By: ScooterNZ		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/30/overheard-at-airport/#comment-540871</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ScooterNZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talking of walking sticks, I was passing through Auckland (New Zealand) airport on route to Fiji, I was using a walking stick, while waiting for two hip replacements. The security guy took my walking stick off me to X-Ray to see if I had anything hidden inside it, then instructed me to walk thru the scanner. I told him I needed the walking stick to walk with and he told me to do the best I could so I immediately touched the sides of the walkthrough scanner which made all hell break out, buzzers, flashing lights etc. I was told that you can&#039;t touch the scanner, so I told him I couldn&#039;t walk without the walking stick. That was what the &quot;walking&quot; bit of it was about. He told me again I would have to anyway because those were the rules. I just stood there and told him I wanted to see his supervisor. I got it sorted out with someone who had brains fortunately, got a profuse apology.
When I came back thru customs 10 days later I was pulled out and had the full security check, opened my bags and hand searched all my clothes including the seams, wiped my credit cards and bottom of my bags for drugs etc. Nobody said anything about me being over on duty free goods nor searched me. I had my narcotic painkiller supply in my pocket. I never mentioned it because of the hassle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking of walking sticks, I was passing through Auckland (New Zealand) airport on route to Fiji, I was using a walking stick, while waiting for two hip replacements. The security guy took my walking stick off me to X-Ray to see if I had anything hidden inside it, then instructed me to walk thru the scanner. I told him I needed the walking stick to walk with and he told me to do the best I could so I immediately touched the sides of the walkthrough scanner which made all hell break out, buzzers, flashing lights etc. I was told that you can&#8217;t touch the scanner, so I told him I couldn&#8217;t walk without the walking stick. That was what the &#8220;walking&#8221; bit of it was about. He told me again I would have to anyway because those were the rules. I just stood there and told him I wanted to see his supervisor. I got it sorted out with someone who had brains fortunately, got a profuse apology.<br />
When I came back thru customs 10 days later I was pulled out and had the full security check, opened my bags and hand searched all my clothes including the seams, wiped my credit cards and bottom of my bags for drugs etc. Nobody said anything about me being over on duty free goods nor searched me. I had my narcotic painkiller supply in my pocket. I never mentioned it because of the hassle.</p>
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		By: Dr. T		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TruePath, thank you for you eloquent posting. Too bad only about 2% of people think and reason like you do.

I&#039;ve avoided flights as much as possible since 9/11/2001. But, I&#039;m flying to Germany with my daughter soon, and I&#039;m dreading the process. She&#039;s studying there for 11 months, so we&#039;re taking maximum luggage and a year&#039;s worth of prescription medicines. I have bipolar disorder, so I&#039;ll have to load up on tranquilizers before arriving at the airport (otherwise, I&#039;ll probably unload streams of verbal abuse at officious and intrusive TSA and customs snoops).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TruePath, thank you for you eloquent posting. Too bad only about 2% of people think and reason like you do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve avoided flights as much as possible since 9/11/2001. But, I&#8217;m flying to Germany with my daughter soon, and I&#8217;m dreading the process. She&#8217;s studying there for 11 months, so we&#8217;re taking maximum luggage and a year&#8217;s worth of prescription medicines. I have bipolar disorder, so I&#8217;ll have to load up on tranquilizers before arriving at the airport (otherwise, I&#8217;ll probably unload streams of verbal abuse at officious and intrusive TSA and customs snoops).</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Is your name even actually Laden?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pretty lame trolling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is your name even actually Laden?</p></blockquote>
<p>Pretty lame trolling.</p>
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