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		By: mark		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540641</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No point in this moron taking geology courses--he probably already knows that geologists, along with all other scientists, are part of the Grand Conspiracy. He&#039;s defending his tribe from &quot;attack by the educated and intelligent segment of society.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No point in this moron taking geology courses&#8211;he probably already knows that geologists, along with all other scientists, are part of the Grand Conspiracy. He&#8217;s defending his tribe from &#8220;attack by the educated and intelligent segment of society.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Just this guy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540640</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just this guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should someone be contacting the RCMP, or is this already in hand?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should someone be contacting the RCMP, or is this already in hand?</p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540639</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MadScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@The Science Pundit:  As the science investigator pointed out to the self-proclaimed warrior, it cannot possibly be oil exploration because it&#039;s the wrong geology. Oil and gas simply are not found underneath granite; the processes which result in large granite deposits would disrupt and destroy any hydrocarbon reservoirs. So the warrior is obviously not educated.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The Science Pundit:  As the science investigator pointed out to the self-proclaimed warrior, it cannot possibly be oil exploration because it&#8217;s the wrong geology. Oil and gas simply are not found underneath granite; the processes which result in large granite deposits would disrupt and destroy any hydrocarbon reservoirs. So the warrior is obviously not educated.</p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MadScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He saved a few hundred million bacteria from their otherwise guaranteed doom should the charge have been detonated.  The soil bacteria praise you, O Wise Earth Warrior!  Carry on the fight for bacterial rights!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He saved a few hundred million bacteria from their otherwise guaranteed doom should the charge have been detonated.  The soil bacteria praise you, O Wise Earth Warrior!  Carry on the fight for bacterial rights!</p>
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		By: Coemgenus		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540637</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coemgenus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has this self-confessed vandal been arrested for criminal damage yet?]]></description>
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		By: Janet Holmes		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be very surprised if someone of the mental capacity of this moron could pass a geology course. It is not an easy subject. We were told that a first year geology student had to learn more new vocabulary than a first year French student! To say nothing of the concepts involved. Not for the mentally feeble.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be very surprised if someone of the mental capacity of this moron could pass a geology course. It is not an easy subject. We were told that a first year geology student had to learn more new vocabulary than a first year French student! To say nothing of the concepts involved. Not for the mentally feeble.</p>
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		By: Azkyroth		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azkyroth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;To generate real change, you must expose and disable the power structure that allows political decision-making to be bent by those with agendas that put profits over the good of the global community.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone ought to point out to him that this power structure does not have a health bar and there is no dramatic music playing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To generate real change, you must expose and disable the power structure that allows political decision-making to be bent by those with agendas that put profits over the good of the global community.</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone ought to point out to him that this power structure does not have a health bar and there is no dramatic music playing.</p>
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		By: VolcanoMan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VolcanoMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, you *could* send him to jail...but I think a better strategy would be to force him to take (and pass) some geology courses. We&#039;re not all evil bastards intent on enabling the destruction of the environment (and our species). In fact, most geologists I know both accept the truth of the anthropogenic climate change arguments (there is a lot of evidence), and are, in some way, contributing to the understanding of the climate system. Actually, the very project that our misguided environmentalist disrupted may provide a key piece of the puzzle as plate tectonics is the most important force in the global change of climate, long-term.

Of course, for geology courses to have any positive impact on this guy&#039;s life, he would need to develop his rational faculties, which seem wanting. A little information is a dangerous thing for someone with an irrational worldview; for all I know, teaching him geology would allow him to direct his subterfuge at real oil exploration projects, if he isn&#039;t simultaneously taught that the only reason such exploration happens is because there is money and politics involved, and that someone will ALWAYS be there to find and extract the oil if they are paid. To generate real change, you must expose and disable the power structure that allows political decision-making to be bent by those with agendas that put profits over the good of the global community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you *could* send him to jail&#8230;but I think a better strategy would be to force him to take (and pass) some geology courses. We&#8217;re not all evil bastards intent on enabling the destruction of the environment (and our species). In fact, most geologists I know both accept the truth of the anthropogenic climate change arguments (there is a lot of evidence), and are, in some way, contributing to the understanding of the climate system. Actually, the very project that our misguided environmentalist disrupted may provide a key piece of the puzzle as plate tectonics is the most important force in the global change of climate, long-term.</p>
<p>Of course, for geology courses to have any positive impact on this guy&#8217;s life, he would need to develop his rational faculties, which seem wanting. A little information is a dangerous thing for someone with an irrational worldview; for all I know, teaching him geology would allow him to direct his subterfuge at real oil exploration projects, if he isn&#8217;t simultaneously taught that the only reason such exploration happens is because there is money and politics involved, and that someone will ALWAYS be there to find and extract the oil if they are paid. To generate real change, you must expose and disable the power structure that allows political decision-making to be bent by those with agendas that put profits over the good of the global community.</p>
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		By: Joshua Zelinsky		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540633</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Zelinsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I look forward to seeing this idiot prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to seeing this idiot prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. </p>
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		By: Azkyroth		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/28/earth-warrior-saves-canada-fro/#comment-540632</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azkyroth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My comment, reproduced at Pharyngula but not at the sniveling little coward&#039;s site:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This was an amazingly foolish and pointless action. Quite aside from the absurd sense of entitlement involved in this kind of vandalism, I have taken exactly one introductory geology class and even I know that one does not look for oil in granite batholiths. Even assuming that sabotaging oil exploration would be justified, I think it&#039;s incumbent on you to have at least a bright high school student&#039;s level of understanding of what&#039;s going on before acting. As it is, this act of vandalism places you on the same level as the perpetrators of the semi-mythicized incident in Britain where a mob of citizens got the terms &quot;pedophile&quot; and &quot;pediatrician&quot; mixed up and attacked one of the latter. Congratulations. 

While you apparently don&#039;t have much use for knowledge and learning, given your failure to educate yourself on this issue, you have seriously undermined important scientific research aimed at increasing our understanding of the geologic processes and history of the planet (and possibly giving us important information that might be relevant to, for instance, predicting and mitigating earthquakes and volcanic eruptions), and imposed a substantial cost on an educational budget that was already hanging by a thread. More important, however, is the damage you&#039;ve done to the environmental movement. After this irrational, ignorant, and criminal attack, you&#039;ve made the job of Big Oil and other companies who consider environmental protection to be an irrevelant pain in the neck much easier. They can cut their advertising budgets and spend them on more ACTUAL oil exploration, since now they have little need to float elaborate lies and mistruths about the environmental impact of their projects and the motivations and justification of their opponents. Instead, all they have to do is point to your crime, tell one simple lie - &quot;This is a typical environmentalist&quot; - and the movement&#039;s credibility is damaged irreparably.

With friends like you, the earth has no need of enemies. With enemies like you, Big Oil has no need of friends. So, congratulations. I hope whatever momentary satisfaction you got from this action was worth it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment, reproduced at Pharyngula but not at the sniveling little coward&#8217;s site:</p>
<blockquote><p>This was an amazingly foolish and pointless action. Quite aside from the absurd sense of entitlement involved in this kind of vandalism, I have taken exactly one introductory geology class and even I know that one does not look for oil in granite batholiths. Even assuming that sabotaging oil exploration would be justified, I think it&#8217;s incumbent on you to have at least a bright high school student&#8217;s level of understanding of what&#8217;s going on before acting. As it is, this act of vandalism places you on the same level as the perpetrators of the semi-mythicized incident in Britain where a mob of citizens got the terms &#8220;pedophile&#8221; and &#8220;pediatrician&#8221; mixed up and attacked one of the latter. Congratulations. </p>
<p>While you apparently don&#8217;t have much use for knowledge and learning, given your failure to educate yourself on this issue, you have seriously undermined important scientific research aimed at increasing our understanding of the geologic processes and history of the planet (and possibly giving us important information that might be relevant to, for instance, predicting and mitigating earthquakes and volcanic eruptions), and imposed a substantial cost on an educational budget that was already hanging by a thread. More important, however, is the damage you&#8217;ve done to the environmental movement. After this irrational, ignorant, and criminal attack, you&#8217;ve made the job of Big Oil and other companies who consider environmental protection to be an irrevelant pain in the neck much easier. They can cut their advertising budgets and spend them on more ACTUAL oil exploration, since now they have little need to float elaborate lies and mistruths about the environmental impact of their projects and the motivations and justification of their opponents. Instead, all they have to do is point to your crime, tell one simple lie &#8211; &#8220;This is a typical environmentalist&#8221; &#8211; and the movement&#8217;s credibility is damaged irreparably.</p>
<p>With friends like you, the earth has no need of enemies. With enemies like you, Big Oil has no need of friends. So, congratulations. I hope whatever momentary satisfaction you got from this action was worth it.</p></blockquote>
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