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		By: the real me		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/24/cambridge-police-a-matter-of-b/#comment-540501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the real me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Becca forgot one part of the equation of &quot;female + sleek sports car + attitude + white = funny look + patronizing attitude + getting asked on a date&quot;

...which is White female NOT profiled for anything that puts her life in jeopardy, much less profiled when they ARE criminals+sense of white female entitlement+ pathetic disregard for the rights of men who go through this shit every day = a society ill equipped to call entitled white women what they are = cops hitting on entitled chicks whose privilege is masked in the illusion of &#039;what is sexy&#039; to a gun toting cop = matriarchal authority and attitudes masked in police state power into infinity]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becca forgot one part of the equation of &#8220;female + sleek sports car + attitude + white = funny look + patronizing attitude + getting asked on a date&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;which is White female NOT profiled for anything that puts her life in jeopardy, much less profiled when they ARE criminals+sense of white female entitlement+ pathetic disregard for the rights of men who go through this shit every day = a society ill equipped to call entitled white women what they are = cops hitting on entitled chicks whose privilege is masked in the illusion of &#8216;what is sexy&#8217; to a gun toting cop = matriarchal authority and attitudes masked in police state power into infinity</p>
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		By: Tsu Dho Nimh		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/24/cambridge-police-a-matter-of-b/#comment-540500</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tsu Dho Nimh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having an ID with an address matching the residence and having a legal right to be in that residence are two different things ... ask any landlord who has evicted a tenant, or person with a keep-away order against a spouse.

I have had ex-tenants stand in an apartment and claim they were legally there as long as a year after the lease was over. Yes, their driver&#039;s license had the address on it, but their non-paying butts had been evicted. They snuck in between tenants and tried to steal the appliances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having an ID with an address matching the residence and having a legal right to be in that residence are two different things &#8230; ask any landlord who has evicted a tenant, or person with a keep-away order against a spouse.</p>
<p>I have had ex-tenants stand in an apartment and claim they were legally there as long as a year after the lease was over. Yes, their driver&#8217;s license had the address on it, but their non-paying butts had been evicted. They snuck in between tenants and tried to steal the appliances.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[... Hey!  You are profiling!!!!!

(Loving the image of floor mats thrown on ground by disgruntled coppers)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; Hey!  You are profiling!!!!!</p>
<p>(Loving the image of floor mats thrown on ground by disgruntled coppers)</p>
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		By: becca		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/24/cambridge-police-a-matter-of-b/#comment-540498</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[becca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Based on statistical averages of most-likely-bad-but-not-worst-possible case scenarios:

male + sleek sports car + attitude + whiteymcwhitewhite = frisking + verbal abuse + floor mats thrown on ground

male + sleek sports car + attitude + black = frisking + verbal abuse + presumption of stolen car + person thrown on ground

Also,
female + sleek sports car + attitude + white = funny look + patronizing attitude + getting asked on a date

Look kids, you &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; acknowledge your own privilege and note the system is screwed up at the same time! It&#039;s fun, try it with me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on statistical averages of most-likely-bad-but-not-worst-possible case scenarios:</p>
<p>male + sleek sports car + attitude + whiteymcwhitewhite = frisking + verbal abuse + floor mats thrown on ground</p>
<p>male + sleek sports car + attitude + black = frisking + verbal abuse + presumption of stolen car + person thrown on ground</p>
<p>Also,<br />
female + sleek sports car + attitude + white = funny look + patronizing attitude + getting asked on a date</p>
<p>Look kids, you <i>can</i> acknowledge your own privilege and note the system is screwed up at the same time! It&#8217;s fun, try it with me!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;That thing had to take at least a couple weeks to grow.&lt;/em&gt;

Took about ten years. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That thing had to take at least a couple weeks to grow.</em></p>
<p>Took about ten years. </p>
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		By: t		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/24/cambridge-police-a-matter-of-b/#comment-540496</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[t]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steph @ &quot;very rude of citizens to do that, to be sure. But it is not a crime&quot; 
Yup, I know. The problem is that people who have never been arrested, etc. are all indignant, which is GOOD, but totally unaware--which is not good--of the actual ways that police power is abusive in the case of false and trumped arrests. It is a tactic that they use every single day. 

The biggest problem here in this case is that some idiot-Gates- decided to smear black face on an issue that afects anyone who has ever been f$cked over by cops, and so the abuse of power continues. Next generation will just have a different face on it, but the same abuse. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steph @ &#8220;very rude of citizens to do that, to be sure. But it is not a crime&#8221;<br />
Yup, I know. The problem is that people who have never been arrested, etc. are all indignant, which is GOOD, but totally unaware&#8211;which is not good&#8211;of the actual ways that police power is abusive in the case of false and trumped arrests. It is a tactic that they use every single day. </p>
<p>The biggest problem here in this case is that some idiot-Gates- decided to smear black face on an issue that afects anyone who has ever been f$cked over by cops, and so the abuse of power continues. Next generation will just have a different face on it, but the same abuse. </p>
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		By: Kitty'sBitch		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/24/cambridge-police-a-matter-of-b/#comment-540495</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kitty'sBitch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Actually,no, I GREW it while I was drunk.&quot;

And Tom Selleck wept.
That thing had to take at least a couple weeks to grow. That&#039;s one hell of a binge.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually,no, I GREW it while I was drunk.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Tom Selleck wept.<br />
That thing had to take at least a couple weeks to grow. That&#8217;s one hell of a binge.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/24/cambridge-police-a-matter-of-b/#comment-540494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Shaving while drunk is dangerous!&lt;/em&gt;

Actually,no, I GREW it while I was drunk. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Shaving while drunk is dangerous!</em></p>
<p>Actually,no, I GREW it while I was drunk. </p>
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		By: Spiv		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spiv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once upon a time I was pulled over by a rather accusative police officer. My crime was driving a sleek looking sports car while young in the middle of the afternoon. Worse than that, the car, being wedge shaped, was not something that tagged well under the current radar technology. I knew this, the cop knew this (or, at least, discovered it as I watched him attempt to tag me 3 or 4 times with a frustrated look on his face as I drove past).

All the same he raced up and pulled me over, told me I was speeding. Not wanting a ticket for a crime I did not commit, I didn&#039;t much feel like playing ball- especially knowing he did not have any evidence or reason to believe I was speeding. When I asked to see the radar&#039;s readings he refused, and then proceeded to change the subject by asking to search my car. We&#039;ve stepped beyond &#039;you&#039;re speeding&#039; now.

Being this particular car: the interior consisted of two tiny seats, floor mats, and a glove compartment that could scarcely contain a full sized pair of gloves (which was open, and empty since it normally only contained my registration; which he was holding). There was not so much as a stray receipt or candy wrapper in the whole car. I was so taken back by his request that without thinking I just confusedly scanned over the tiny space inside and turned back to him and announced &quot;I think you just did?&quot;

Well, this did not go over well and I ultimately ended up stepping out of the vehicle to get frisked, my car &quot;searched&quot; (seats folded back and forth a couple times, floor mats toss on the ground) and a good run of verbal abuse.

This is the kind of treatment I&#039;ve come to expect from police, regardless of supposed crimes. Regardless of my race (I&#039;m Whitey McWhitewhite anyway). Some cops are just jerks, and the moment you don&#039;t roll over and play sucker you&#039;re in for abuse. That&#039;s a problem.

So I guess I don&#039;t assume race was an issue here. Only that the cop felt like being a jerk. Perhaps he felt his masculinity was on the line. I don&#039;t know. But it&#039;s a shameful thing either way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a time I was pulled over by a rather accusative police officer. My crime was driving a sleek looking sports car while young in the middle of the afternoon. Worse than that, the car, being wedge shaped, was not something that tagged well under the current radar technology. I knew this, the cop knew this (or, at least, discovered it as I watched him attempt to tag me 3 or 4 times with a frustrated look on his face as I drove past).</p>
<p>All the same he raced up and pulled me over, told me I was speeding. Not wanting a ticket for a crime I did not commit, I didn&#8217;t much feel like playing ball- especially knowing he did not have any evidence or reason to believe I was speeding. When I asked to see the radar&#8217;s readings he refused, and then proceeded to change the subject by asking to search my car. We&#8217;ve stepped beyond &#8216;you&#8217;re speeding&#8217; now.</p>
<p>Being this particular car: the interior consisted of two tiny seats, floor mats, and a glove compartment that could scarcely contain a full sized pair of gloves (which was open, and empty since it normally only contained my registration; which he was holding). There was not so much as a stray receipt or candy wrapper in the whole car. I was so taken back by his request that without thinking I just confusedly scanned over the tiny space inside and turned back to him and announced &#8220;I think you just did?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, this did not go over well and I ultimately ended up stepping out of the vehicle to get frisked, my car &#8220;searched&#8221; (seats folded back and forth a couple times, floor mats toss on the ground) and a good run of verbal abuse.</p>
<p>This is the kind of treatment I&#8217;ve come to expect from police, regardless of supposed crimes. Regardless of my race (I&#8217;m Whitey McWhitewhite anyway). Some cops are just jerks, and the moment you don&#8217;t roll over and play sucker you&#8217;re in for abuse. That&#8217;s a problem.</p>
<p>So I guess I don&#8217;t assume race was an issue here. Only that the cop felt like being a jerk. Perhaps he felt his masculinity was on the line. I don&#8217;t know. But it&#8217;s a shameful thing either way.</p>
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		By: Enoch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enoch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;I was drunk.&lt;/em&gt;

Shaving while drunk is dangerous!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I was drunk.</em></p>
<p>Shaving while drunk is dangerous!</p>
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