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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think this happens when people don&#039;t have the resources they need in order to cope with pretty much anything stressful, not just being sick. Leaning on the people who give you easy answers and promise to take care of you, whether they can or no, gets very tempting at that point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this happens when people don&#8217;t have the resources they need in order to cope with pretty much anything stressful, not just being sick. Leaning on the people who give you easy answers and promise to take care of you, whether they can or no, gets very tempting at that point.</p>
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		By: omar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[omar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kammy: &quot;I&#039;m also interested in the topic of how even adults can be turn from a skeptical, possibly atheist, viewpoint into followers of a faith or a woohead.&quot;

I think this often happens when people get sick. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kammy: &#8220;I&#8217;m also interested in the topic of how even adults can be turn from a skeptical, possibly atheist, viewpoint into followers of a faith or a woohead.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this often happens when people get sick. </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When not agreeing loudly enough can be a form of attack (or even just agreeing while privileged), this is not a big surprise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When not agreeing loudly enough can be a form of attack (or even just agreeing while privileged), this is not a big surprise.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the case of Rebecca&#039;s discussion, it would seem that under some conditions, not yelling is a form of attack.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of Rebecca&#8217;s discussion, it would seem that under some conditions, not yelling is a form of attack.  </p>
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		By: Kammy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kammy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a very sad story really. I did get in line for a serving of Mommy Instinct (MI). Unfortunately, there was a really loud mouthed blonde ahead of me who bogarted it all. I got the last laugh though by getting to the booth for How to Keep Wrestlemania and I Made Out With Jenna Jamison Off Your Resume ahead of her. :P]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a very sad story really. I did get in line for a serving of Mommy Instinct (MI). Unfortunately, there was a really loud mouthed blonde ahead of me who bogarted it all. I got the last laugh though by getting to the booth for How to Keep Wrestlemania and I Made Out With Jenna Jamison Off Your Resume ahead of her. 😛</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parenting is about as scary as it gets. Yes.

We missed one of the unassailable positions for shutting down discussion, by the way. (For everyone who wasn&#039;t at that panel, these are positions in which disagreement is labeled as attack.) We got the religious and the parents, but we missed &lt;a href=&quot;http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=8059&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the victims&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parenting is about as scary as it gets. Yes.</p>
<p>We missed one of the unassailable positions for shutting down discussion, by the way. (For everyone who wasn&#8217;t at that panel, these are positions in which disagreement is labeled as attack.) We got the religious and the parents, but we missed <a href="http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=8059" rel="nofollow">the victims</a>.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But Kammy, as a mother, don&#039;t you feel like you have the built in instinct to know exactly what to do?  ... :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Kammy, as a mother, don&#8217;t you feel like you have the built in instinct to know exactly what to do?  &#8230; 🙁</p>
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		By: Kammy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kammy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*waves*

Parenting is scary. It&#039;s scary because of our desire for our children to grow and develop as whole human beings. They&#039;re born innocent little blobs of flesh, and soon become recognizable as human beings. Totally inexperienced human beings with fertile brains that we parents have the responsibility to cultivate. I&#039;ll not be happy if my son turns out to be a religious conservative, but I&#039;ll accept it as long as he&#039;s a critical thinker. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*waves*</p>
<p>Parenting is scary. It&#8217;s scary because of our desire for our children to grow and develop as whole human beings. They&#8217;re born innocent little blobs of flesh, and soon become recognizable as human beings. Totally inexperienced human beings with fertile brains that we parents have the responsibility to cultivate. I&#8217;ll not be happy if my son turns out to be a religious conservative, but I&#8217;ll accept it as long as he&#8217;s a critical thinker. </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;But obsessing on what political orientation your child will take, shouldn&#039;t be such a big deal.&lt;/em&gt;

No, that&#039;s really important, especially since we live in a country where everyone in one of the two major political parties is almost always wrong almost all the time, and the people in the other major political party are close to right half the time.  Big difference! But as you say, and I agree with this, individuals transcend this all the time.

In fact, just last night my friend Kammy, who was the original inspiration for this post, and me were amazing our radical leftist mutual friends by backing up Jesse Ventura on several points.

Oh, Hi Kammy!  

And right... what we came to in that discussion which is still ongoing is that pushing is bad.  Also, modeling from certain perspectives is bad.  I know someone who had aspirations in a particular sport as a kid, but those aspirations did not work out. But, she &#039;encouraged&#039; (mostly in a healthy and appropriate way) her child to try that sport out.  The encouragement was just fine, but the idea that success would lead to a vicarious reckoning on the part of the mother ended up being a lot like pushing.  And as a result, this particular young person is not going to be a championship swimmer. 

The main point here is that this is all very scary.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But obsessing on what political orientation your child will take, shouldn&#8217;t be such a big deal.</em></p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s really important, especially since we live in a country where everyone in one of the two major political parties is almost always wrong almost all the time, and the people in the other major political party are close to right half the time.  Big difference! But as you say, and I agree with this, individuals transcend this all the time.</p>
<p>In fact, just last night my friend Kammy, who was the original inspiration for this post, and me were amazing our radical leftist mutual friends by backing up Jesse Ventura on several points.</p>
<p>Oh, Hi Kammy!  </p>
<p>And right&#8230; what we came to in that discussion which is still ongoing is that pushing is bad.  Also, modeling from certain perspectives is bad.  I know someone who had aspirations in a particular sport as a kid, but those aspirations did not work out. But, she &#8216;encouraged&#8217; (mostly in a healthy and appropriate way) her child to try that sport out.  The encouragement was just fine, but the idea that success would lead to a vicarious reckoning on the part of the mother ended up being a lot like pushing.  And as a result, this particular young person is not going to be a championship swimmer. </p>
<p>The main point here is that this is all very scary.  </p>
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		By: Kammy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kammy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Replying to JJ&#039;s &quot;I have issues with this question. It shouldn&#039;t be the parents &#039;decision&#039; how their matured child thinks ideologically. If anything, one would assume forcing the subject would just make a kid run the other way.&quot;

It was just that question of how to avoid forcing the subject that I was asking Greg at the Con. I think most parents understand that emphasizing one thing or another carries the risk of tiddlywinking the child off in the wrong direction. I&#039;m always hoping to hear tips from skeptical/atheist/liberal parents (like me) on guiding our children in what we feel is the right direction. Not pushing, not forcing, but gently leading perhaps? As a mom to a 4 year old, I was interested and encouraged to hear that Greg&#039;s 12 year old is a critical thinker. It&#039;s one of the outcomes I&#039;m interested in for my kiddo. 

I&#039;m also interested in the topic of how even adults can be turn from a skeptical, possibly atheist, viewpoint into followers of a faith or a woohead. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to JJ&#8217;s &#8220;I have issues with this question. It shouldn&#8217;t be the parents &#8216;decision&#8217; how their matured child thinks ideologically. If anything, one would assume forcing the subject would just make a kid run the other way.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was just that question of how to avoid forcing the subject that I was asking Greg at the Con. I think most parents understand that emphasizing one thing or another carries the risk of tiddlywinking the child off in the wrong direction. I&#8217;m always hoping to hear tips from skeptical/atheist/liberal parents (like me) on guiding our children in what we feel is the right direction. Not pushing, not forcing, but gently leading perhaps? As a mom to a 4 year old, I was interested and encouraged to hear that Greg&#8217;s 12 year old is a critical thinker. It&#8217;s one of the outcomes I&#8217;m interested in for my kiddo. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also interested in the topic of how even adults can be turn from a skeptical, possibly atheist, viewpoint into followers of a faith or a woohead. </p>
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