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	Comments on: MSNBC: Time to retire Buchanan (an open letter)	</title>
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		By: Tennessee-Socialist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539112</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tennessee-Socialist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OH ONE MORE THING MY FRIENDS: 

And don&#039;t worry people. The collapse of the US dollar and the coming hyper-inflation will make Republican Party religious zionist voters and lunatic evangelical zealots, into socialists.  Sooner or later the US citizens will be necessarily forced to look toward people like Ralph Nader, Cynthia Mckinney, The Green Party, The Socialist Party of USA and other Third Political Party alternatives as an escape out of this barbaric capitalist hell of Democrats and Republicans which have only brought to all US citizens, poverty, misery, diabetes, obesity, an epidemia of heart-related deaths and illnesses, foreclosures, tent cities, 20% of unemployment, 80 millions of americans in poverty, and 1 out of 6 american children starving.  While a minority which is about 2% to 5% of the USA population is getting richer, and richer and richer. While the rest of americans is getting poorer, poorer and poorer.

In others capitalism in USA is only making us poorer and poorer.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH ONE MORE THING MY FRIENDS: </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t worry people. The collapse of the US dollar and the coming hyper-inflation will make Republican Party religious zionist voters and lunatic evangelical zealots, into socialists.  Sooner or later the US citizens will be necessarily forced to look toward people like Ralph Nader, Cynthia Mckinney, The Green Party, The Socialist Party of USA and other Third Political Party alternatives as an escape out of this barbaric capitalist hell of Democrats and Republicans which have only brought to all US citizens, poverty, misery, diabetes, obesity, an epidemia of heart-related deaths and illnesses, foreclosures, tent cities, 20% of unemployment, 80 millions of americans in poverty, and 1 out of 6 american children starving.  While a minority which is about 2% to 5% of the USA population is getting richer, and richer and richer. While the rest of americans is getting poorer, poorer and poorer.</p>
<p>In others capitalism in USA is only making us poorer and poorer.</p>
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		By: Tennessee-Socialist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tennessee-Socialist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And i think that we are in a world of paradigm shift. Where conservative, right-wing elitist ideology is fading away. It is fading away because we are living in a sort of enlightenment period again. (But this time brought to the masses by the internet, economic collapse and the sharing of knowledge.  Which produces an objective revolutionary situation)

The old right-wing system of the XX Century will fade away.  Right-wing ideology is anti-scientific, not backed by science and proofs. But backed by Domination Theology Churches (Right wing classist, elitist churches)

People are waking up and rejecting The Republican Party and all philosophical and political systems that deffend the rich people and oppress the majority which are poors.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And i think that we are in a world of paradigm shift. Where conservative, right-wing elitist ideology is fading away. It is fading away because we are living in a sort of enlightenment period again. (But this time brought to the masses by the internet, economic collapse and the sharing of knowledge.  Which produces an objective revolutionary situation)</p>
<p>The old right-wing system of the XX Century will fade away.  Right-wing ideology is anti-scientific, not backed by science and proofs. But backed by Domination Theology Churches (Right wing classist, elitist churches)</p>
<p>People are waking up and rejecting The Republican Party and all philosophical and political systems that deffend the rich people and oppress the majority which are poors.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539110</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Andrew (32) and Nemo. Buchanan is more sensible-seeming and less ranting on MSNBC most of the time, but then every now and then he turns red and starts a rant, and everybody else takes a step back or two and Chris Matthews says something like &quot;This is why I like having you on, Pat.  Just don&#039;t do it too often&quot; or words to that effect.  

And yes, it will be interesting to see how he swings into the immigration issue next time around as it emerges possibly later in the current congressional session (but probably next session). ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andrew (32) and Nemo. Buchanan is more sensible-seeming and less ranting on MSNBC most of the time, but then every now and then he turns red and starts a rant, and everybody else takes a step back or two and Chris Matthews says something like &#8220;This is why I like having you on, Pat.  Just don&#8217;t do it too often&#8221; or words to that effect.  </p>
<p>And yes, it will be interesting to see how he swings into the immigration issue next time around as it emerges possibly later in the current congressional session (but probably next session). </p>
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		By: Aunt Bea		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539109</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aunt Bea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob, Laden is giving Buchanan a break here.  You should see what he did to James Watson.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, Laden is giving Buchanan a break here.  You should see what he did to James Watson.  </p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539108</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Buchanan&#039;s attacks on Sotomayor are also typical of him.  In fact, Sotomayor is Buchanan&#039;s worst nightmare.  This particular Mexicana not only climbed over the fence but she took a job away from a home born and bred American White Person.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buchanan&#8217;s attacks on Sotomayor are also typical of him.  In fact, Sotomayor is Buchanan&#8217;s worst nightmare.  This particular Mexicana not only climbed over the fence but she took a job away from a home born and bred American White Person.  </p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob P., the connection to the children which you have missed is the Establishment Clause.  Buchanan&#039;s position is promoting a religion (assuming it is implemented in the science grade school setting, for instance).   That would be OK in a private school but not in a public school.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob P., the connection to the children which you have missed is the Establishment Clause.  Buchanan&#8217;s position is promoting a religion (assuming it is implemented in the science grade school setting, for instance).   That would be OK in a private school but not in a public school.  </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539106</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bob, maybe you should read it again. We&#039;re not making any laws here, either about speech or the press. Just as a newspaper does not have to print every letter they receive, a station may choose which talking heads to air. We&#039;re making our opinions about MSNBC&#039;s choices known.

Nor are we telling Buchanan to shut up (much less &quot;just&quot; telling him; see the links Greg provides for people telling him he&#039;s wrong), although we&#039;d still be within our own rights to do that, since we don&#039;t have enforcement powers. We&#039;re saying his speech, with its power to hurt others, belongs in the margins, not the mainstream.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bob, maybe you should read it again. We&#8217;re not making any laws here, either about speech or the press. Just as a newspaper does not have to print every letter they receive, a station may choose which talking heads to air. We&#8217;re making our opinions about MSNBC&#8217;s choices known.</p>
<p>Nor are we telling Buchanan to shut up (much less &#8220;just&#8221; telling him; see the links Greg provides for people telling him he&#8217;s wrong), although we&#8217;d still be within our own rights to do that, since we don&#8217;t have enforcement powers. We&#8217;re saying his speech, with its power to hurt others, belongs in the margins, not the mainstream.</p>
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		By: Carman		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539105</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Umm... actually the first amendment protects the right of a bunch of miscreant bloggers to harass someone.  Just sayin&#039; ... speech ain&#039;t only free when you like it BobP. 

Now, I agree that it would be a violation of Buchanan&#039;s rights to toss him in jail for espousing the tripe that he does. Insisting, however, that a news outlet not give a forum to something so intellectually dishonest and just plain silly is not.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; actually the first amendment protects the right of a bunch of miscreant bloggers to harass someone.  Just sayin&#8217; &#8230; speech ain&#8217;t only free when you like it BobP. </p>
<p>Now, I agree that it would be a violation of Buchanan&#8217;s rights to toss him in jail for espousing the tripe that he does. Insisting, however, that a news outlet not give a forum to something so intellectually dishonest and just plain silly is not.  </p>
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		By: Bob the Patriot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob the Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, you will all stick together to tell each other you are right, but you can learn from this.  Pat Buchanan has expressed a (valid but it does not matter) opinion on that Evolution is not truthful.  It is fine, even good, to tell him he is wrong.  This posting has nothing about that whatsoever, and you are telling him only that he can not speak freely.  If he is wrong, then tell him why, but do not just tell him to shut up.  This is what the 1st amendment protects him against.  You could do well to read the constitution once. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you will all stick together to tell each other you are right, but you can learn from this.  Pat Buchanan has expressed a (valid but it does not matter) opinion on that Evolution is not truthful.  It is fine, even good, to tell him he is wrong.  This posting has nothing about that whatsoever, and you are telling him only that he can not speak freely.  If he is wrong, then tell him why, but do not just tell him to shut up.  This is what the 1st amendment protects him against.  You could do well to read the constitution once. </p>
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		By: Lou FCD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/07/01/msnbc-time-to-retire-buchanan/#comment-539103</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lou FCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob is apparently a master of highly concentrated ignorance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob is apparently a master of highly concentrated ignorance.</p>
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