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	Comments on: Attack of the Hound of Malembi.  Or, &#8220;Whose are these people, anyway?&#8221;	</title>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538536</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MadScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve heard that sort of complaint from friends who have worked in remote areas - as soon as some people realize that they were helping one of the locals and not a whitey they&#039;d get upset.  There are a few occasions where I might just have avoided such a situation.  &quot;There you go, hope you feel better soon!&quot; I&#039;ve trained myself to say &quot;thanks, I&#039;m sure I will&quot; rather than &quot;thanks, but it&#039;s not for me.&quot;

It&#039;s great you got the vaccines to those folks; I&#039;ve seen people die of rabies (in one instance because the parents couldn&#039;t pay for the vaccines but refused to accept the vaccines for free) - it&#039;s a really horrible disease.  I&#039;m surprised the locals hadn&#039;t associated rabid animal bites with death - then again it could be tricky since symptoms can show up anywhere from a few weeks to over a year after being exposed and people may not remember the victim being bitten. Or is being bitten by animals very common for them?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard that sort of complaint from friends who have worked in remote areas &#8211; as soon as some people realize that they were helping one of the locals and not a whitey they&#8217;d get upset.  There are a few occasions where I might just have avoided such a situation.  &#8220;There you go, hope you feel better soon!&#8221; I&#8217;ve trained myself to say &#8220;thanks, I&#8217;m sure I will&#8221; rather than &#8220;thanks, but it&#8217;s not for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great you got the vaccines to those folks; I&#8217;ve seen people die of rabies (in one instance because the parents couldn&#8217;t pay for the vaccines but refused to accept the vaccines for free) &#8211; it&#8217;s a really horrible disease.  I&#8217;m surprised the locals hadn&#8217;t associated rabid animal bites with death &#8211; then again it could be tricky since symptoms can show up anywhere from a few weeks to over a year after being exposed and people may not remember the victim being bitten. Or is being bitten by animals very common for them?</p>
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		By: Arjay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arjay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Strangely, travc, the MAF pilots don&#039;t trust a supernatural navigation system; they seem to have more confidence in technology or the 3 Rs (follow rivers, roads and railways).

By the way, any of you guys enjoying Greg&#039;s posts would likely enjoy Ricky Gervais early standup dvd &quot;Animals&quot;.  Good insights into how the world was made and why snakes are legless....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely, travc, the MAF pilots don&#8217;t trust a supernatural navigation system; they seem to have more confidence in technology or the 3 Rs (follow rivers, roads and railways).</p>
<p>By the way, any of you guys enjoying Greg&#8217;s posts would likely enjoy Ricky Gervais early standup dvd &#8220;Animals&#8221;.  Good insights into how the world was made and why snakes are legless&#8230;.</p>
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		By: travc		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[travc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barn Owl,  
Rabies is co-evolved with bats, so I imagine that just like everywhere else in the world, bats are the most common carrier.

However, people don&#039;t really interact with bats much.  Also, rabid bats typically aren&#039;t aggressive like other infected mammals tend to get.  I think rabies infections in bats are more mild generally.  So people&#039;s close contact with dogs and infected dogs&#039; propensity to get really aggressive when infected with rabies probably accounts for the normal association between rabies and dogs.

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As for the missionaries.  I wish that the science guilds had the financial and public backing that evangelical religions do.  (I&#039;m thinking of &quot;instead of the religions&quot;.)  Imagine the networks of field stations we could maintain!  We&#039;d also probably have an easier time putting together a corps of good bush pilots...  I for one would feel much safer with a pilot who didn&#039;t think that weather was a supernatural manifestation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barn Owl,<br />
Rabies is co-evolved with bats, so I imagine that just like everywhere else in the world, bats are the most common carrier.</p>
<p>However, people don&#8217;t really interact with bats much.  Also, rabid bats typically aren&#8217;t aggressive like other infected mammals tend to get.  I think rabies infections in bats are more mild generally.  So people&#8217;s close contact with dogs and infected dogs&#8217; propensity to get really aggressive when infected with rabies probably accounts for the normal association between rabies and dogs.</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
As for the missionaries.  I wish that the science guilds had the financial and public backing that evangelical religions do.  (I&#8217;m thinking of &#8220;instead of the religions&#8221;.)  Imagine the networks of field stations we could maintain!  We&#8217;d also probably have an easier time putting together a corps of good bush pilots&#8230;  I for one would feel much safer with a pilot who didn&#8217;t think that weather was a supernatural manifestation.</p>
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		By: Troy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Troy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of Mother Teresa, a woman who was only tooo glad to dispense leprosy meds.. to all but the lepers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of Mother Teresa, a woman who was only tooo glad to dispense leprosy meds.. to all but the lepers&#8230;</p>
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		By: Jadehawk		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538532</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jadehawk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[clever solution. but fuck me, that was ass-holy. Is that normal? (yes I&#039;m that kind of sheltered)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clever solution. but fuck me, that was ass-holy. Is that normal? (yes I&#8217;m that kind of sheltered)</p>
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		By: Barn Owl		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538531</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barn Owl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I applaud your solution to the delayed bill, Greg, but I would have been tempted to reply with &quot;WWJD?  Would Jesus send a bill for the rabies vaccine and transport?&quot;

Here in the southern US there have been a few rabies cases in humans that were not associated with known dog or wild animal bites.  The speculation is that the individuals (in one case, a young child in Houston), while sleeping, were bitten by rabid bats, so that the exposure remained unnoticed.  These are, of course, small bats, and I don&#039;t know whether similar species exist in the part of Africa where you were working.      ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud your solution to the delayed bill, Greg, but I would have been tempted to reply with &#8220;WWJD?  Would Jesus send a bill for the rabies vaccine and transport?&#8221;</p>
<p>Here in the southern US there have been a few rabies cases in humans that were not associated with known dog or wild animal bites.  The speculation is that the individuals (in one case, a young child in Houston), while sleeping, were bitten by rabid bats, so that the exposure remained unnoticed.  These are, of course, small bats, and I don&#8217;t know whether similar species exist in the part of Africa where you were working.      </p>
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		By: Arjay		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538530</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arjay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Check out Douglas Adams&#039; &quot;Last chance to see&quot; that I profiled recently in http://protectingourplanet.blogspot.com/2009/05/douglas-darwin-and-doubts.html
As he flew across to Zaire in the MAF plane he chronicled how the missionaries were discussing how to get their ivory &amp; rhino horn out of the country...

He also had a comment on self righteous smiles that &quot;made him want to bite them&quot;.  That said, I owe my own life to those MAF pilots and am only glad that God&#039;s imperfect communication systems led to the saving of 6 other lives through your intervention. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Douglas Adams&#8217; &#8220;Last chance to see&#8221; that I profiled recently in <a href="http://protectingourplanet.blogspot.com/2009/05/douglas-darwin-and-doubts.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://protectingourplanet.blogspot.com/2009/05/douglas-darwin-and-doubts.html</a><br />
As he flew across to Zaire in the MAF plane he chronicled how the missionaries were discussing how to get their ivory &#038; rhino horn out of the country&#8230;</p>
<p>He also had a comment on self righteous smiles that &#8220;made him want to bite them&#8221;.  That said, I owe my own life to those MAF pilots and am only glad that God&#8217;s imperfect communication systems led to the saving of 6 other lives through your intervention. </p>
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		By: Tsu Dho Nimh		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538529</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tsu Dho Nimh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m speechless!

What happened to the example of the Good Samaritan, who didn&#039;t send a bill after arranging medical care and lodging? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m speechless!</p>
<p>What happened to the example of the Good Samaritan, who didn&#8217;t send a bill after arranging medical care and lodging? </p>
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		By: cicely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cicely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I am appalled by the lack of the missionaries Christian charity&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From my observation, &quot;Christian charity&quot; is, in the opinions of many Christians (as judged by actions, rather than words), best reserved to Christians.  Frequently, to Christians of their specific denomination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am appalled by the lack of the missionaries Christian charity</p></blockquote>
<p>From my observation, &#8220;Christian charity&#8221; is, in the opinions of many Christians (as judged by actions, rather than words), best reserved to Christians.  Frequently, to Christians of their specific denomination.</p>
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		By: Jason Thibeault		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/26/attack-of-the-hound-of-malembi/#comment-538527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Thibeault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just doing God&#039;s work.  *facepalm*

Way to go, sir -- saving six people&#039;s lives and putting the disgustingly self-interested missionaries in their place.  Hell of a victory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just doing God&#8217;s work.  *facepalm*</p>
<p>Way to go, sir &#8212; saving six people&#8217;s lives and putting the disgustingly self-interested missionaries in their place.  Hell of a victory.</p>
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