Comments on: Forget the Maginot Line, What About the Beer Line? https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/ Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:08:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538494 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:08:26 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538494 Michael, a lot could be said about this. I can tell you that the degree to which various subgroups of Africans have been affected varies a great deal. FOr the most part, the Efe (Pygmies) I worked with are simply not christians, though they are perfectly happy to go along with the idea that there is this other god that the white people have, and they generally get that the god is vengeful but his son is and OK guy. Otherwise they don’t really care much. But that is only one small group.

]]> By: michael Spencer https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538493 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:46:10 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538493 I’d like to know more about the effect of western religion on the religious fabric of the indigenous society.

The antics of pomposity are a fun read, to be sure. But would it be fair to say that, as an example, the introduction of original sin, and guilt, has a longer lasting and deeper effect?

All across central and south America, native peoples have had customs shredded by western religion. Same for Native Americas here in the US. And the shocking cultural denial to slaves in the US is well known.

What happens in Africa when indigenous values (which, Greg, you don’t actually talk much about)â?? what happens when indigenous social customs and religion are challenged by western religions doctrine? What are the near term doctrinal effects, and the longer term effect on social organization and order?

If you know, of course 🙂

]]> By: Travis https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538492 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:42:58 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538492 There is…not Their is. I just saw that error and feel quite stupid.

]]> By: Caravelle https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538491 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:24:46 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538491 Their is a generational issue involving the Maginot Line? Oh my…is this another thing I am going to have to be bitter about. I am 27, am I in the wrong generation to know about this?

I know about it, but I’m French so the generation thing probably doesn’t apply.

]]> By: Travis https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538490 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:08:09 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538490 Their is a generational issue involving the Maginot Line? Oh my…is this another thing I am going to have to be bitter about. I am 27, am I in the wrong generation to know about this?

I guess I will have to ask my friends.

]]> By: MadScientist https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538489 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:21:07 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538489 While in Papua New Guinea I was disappointed not to discover Noel Coward’s “vintage coconut wine” which was allegedly served with the yams and clams and human hands. Thankfully I didn’t have the experience of being served human hands (but the yams and clams were fine).

I’m glad I’ve never donated to missionaries though. I’ve seen baptist missionaries bragging about how they get US$300 per month for each child in their so-called school and how they only actually spend $20-$30 on each child and get to pocket the rest. These particular missionaries were buying rather expensive houses which were also expensively furnished and they sported expensive cars too. Doing the Lord’s work sure pays off.

]]> By: David Harmon https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538488 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:51:04 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538488 Puts hair on your chest, then the hair catches on fire.

OK, that’s a LOL! Reminds me of when my Mom said about something “that’ll put hair on your chest… or take it off!”

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538487 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:34:23 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538487 Indentured servants are usually paid.

But yes, this is snark. They were not legally indentured, but they were spiritually so.

]]> By: Joe https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538486 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:28:56 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538486 Good thing they had religion to justify the indentured servitude of the African workers

Really? Were they not paying them anything, or was that hyperbole (serious question, I have no idea how the servants are paid)?

]]> By: Susannah https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538485 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:37:50 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/06/23/forget-the-maginot-line-what-a/#comment-538485 Wycliffe missionaries, evangelicals all, at least the ones I knew (I was brought up an MK,) often started work beyond the blender line, and occasionally around the anthropologist line. But I never knew of one who didn’t manage to quickly stretch the blender line to include his/her station. After all, they “need” electricity for the translation work, don’t they?

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