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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537672</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jason,

       You are a tool, and please tell you seriously didn&#039;t pull out the [sic] bullshit!!!??  OMG..first off, who gives a rats browneye about spelling or correct punctuation on the fuckin net..as long as the point in conveyed!!!?? Obviously tools like you i guess. I&#039;m not tryin to get into an arguement with anyone, i just wanted to express my opinion of the situation, but i guess i have to have a phd in FUCKIN ROCKET SCIENCE to matter on here, or at least a laptop, a dictionary, and directions to the nearest starbucks so i can get there from my mothers basement!! I may not understand alot or any of the technical things you&#039;re all talking about, but i understand the greater picture!! The one that you all seem oblivious to!!  But whatever i&#039;ll leave you Jocks of the Geek world to your own devices...try not to spill your soy latte on your keyboard...TOOLS!!   OH and yeah i did mean lemmings .....damnit!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>       You are a tool, and please tell you seriously didn&#8217;t pull out the [sic] bullshit!!!??  OMG..first off, who gives a rats browneye about spelling or correct punctuation on the fuckin net..as long as the point in conveyed!!!?? Obviously tools like you i guess. I&#8217;m not tryin to get into an arguement with anyone, i just wanted to express my opinion of the situation, but i guess i have to have a phd in FUCKIN ROCKET SCIENCE to matter on here, or at least a laptop, a dictionary, and directions to the nearest starbucks so i can get there from my mothers basement!! I may not understand alot or any of the technical things you&#8217;re all talking about, but i understand the greater picture!! The one that you all seem oblivious to!!  But whatever i&#8217;ll leave you Jocks of the Geek world to your own devices&#8230;try not to spill your soy latte on your keyboard&#8230;TOOLS!!   OH and yeah i did mean lemmings &#8230;..damnit!!</p>
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		By: Jason Thibeault		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Thibeault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael: I believe you mean lemming.  *facepalm*

Fail right out of the starting gate, how sad.  And that&#039;s leaving aside all the conspiracy crap.  &quot;there is deffinitely[sic] something that doesn&#039;t add up, and im[sic] sorry to say you won&#039;t convince me otherwise.&quot;  &lt;-- proof of faith

Try science.  It works way better, not just in life in general, but in figuring out the reality behind any situation, e.g. scientific endeavours like a mission to MOTHERFUCKING MARS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: I believe you mean lemming.  *facepalm*</p>
<p>Fail right out of the starting gate, how sad.  And that&#8217;s leaving aside all the conspiracy crap.  &#8220;there is deffinitely[sic] something that doesn&#8217;t add up, and im[sic] sorry to say you won&#8217;t convince me otherwise.&#8221;  <-- proof of faith

Try science.  It works way better, not just in life in general, but in figuring out the reality behind any situation, e.g. scientific endeavours like a mission to MOTHERFUCKING MARS.
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phasespace,


     I see you are just another lemur, playing follow the leader off a cliff!!  F.Y.I.  I really don&#039;t need to know what i&#039;m talking about to know that something stinks about this whole buisness!!!  I don&#039;t care what you think you know, or how many components you have memorized, but there is deffinitely something that doesn&#039;t add up, and im sorry to say you won&#039;t convince me otherwise. You can&#039;t honestly believe that they couldn&#039;t have prevented this, or that , or the other!!  You need to realize that about 90% of what comes outta the mouths of those ppl is garbage, and the other 10 is lysol!  But whatever ...believe what you want...you&#039;ll see sooner or later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phasespace,</p>
<p>     I see you are just another lemur, playing follow the leader off a cliff!!  F.Y.I.  I really don&#8217;t need to know what i&#8217;m talking about to know that something stinks about this whole buisness!!!  I don&#8217;t care what you think you know, or how many components you have memorized, but there is deffinitely something that doesn&#8217;t add up, and im sorry to say you won&#8217;t convince me otherwise. You can&#8217;t honestly believe that they couldn&#8217;t have prevented this, or that , or the other!!  You need to realize that about 90% of what comes outta the mouths of those ppl is garbage, and the other 10 is lysol!  But whatever &#8230;believe what you want&#8230;you&#8217;ll see sooner or later.</p>
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		By: phasespace		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537669</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phasespace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael,

If you knew what you were talking about, you would know that cosmic rays are darn near impossible to shield against with any reliability and still maintain a spacecraft light enough to launch relatively inexpensively.  While it is true that space mission electronics are radiation hardened, that doesn&#039;t mean that they are immune to radiation events.  You&#039;ve never seen a raw image from Hubble have you? They are full of cosmic ray hits. CCDs tend to be mostly forgiving about such this, but other electronic components such as semiconductor voltage regulators tend to be a lot more sensitive to such things.

Finally, you seem to be under the impression that because the people that are involved with these projects are smart (and they are), that they somehow have the ability to do anything.  That is an absolutely crazy assertion.  If it&#039;s so easy, you should build your own spacecraft and send it to Mars, I&#039;m sure you have the ability to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>If you knew what you were talking about, you would know that cosmic rays are darn near impossible to shield against with any reliability and still maintain a spacecraft light enough to launch relatively inexpensively.  While it is true that space mission electronics are radiation hardened, that doesn&#8217;t mean that they are immune to radiation events.  You&#8217;ve never seen a raw image from Hubble have you? They are full of cosmic ray hits. CCDs tend to be mostly forgiving about such this, but other electronic components such as semiconductor voltage regulators tend to be a lot more sensitive to such things.</p>
<p>Finally, you seem to be under the impression that because the people that are involved with these projects are smart (and they are), that they somehow have the ability to do anything.  That is an absolutely crazy assertion.  If it&#8217;s so easy, you should build your own spacecraft and send it to Mars, I&#8217;m sure you have the ability to do so.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537668</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm you would think that N.A.S.A. would plan for little things like cosmic rays in outer space?? Who would&#039;ve thought that they would miss something like that??!! With all these &quot;malfunctions&quot; on supposedly cutting edge, top of the line space equipment, it causes one to wonder.  They, and I say &quot;they&quot; as an all-inclusive, conspiracy related term...(you know who you are!!) They can&#039;t honestly expect the public to believe that a mult-millon dollar piece of technology, created by arguably the smartest people on the face of the earth, malfunctions on a regular basis can they??!! I mean SERIOUSLY....c&#039;mon Bilderberg Group, F.E.M.A., C.I.A., N.S.A., with your black helicopters, and you&#039;re worldwide influence....honestly, you can do better than that can&#039;t ya???!!! Oh well....I guess they will continue to treat the general public like mushrooms(feed them crap, and keep them in the dark) until the end of time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm you would think that N.A.S.A. would plan for little things like cosmic rays in outer space?? Who would&#8217;ve thought that they would miss something like that??!! With all these &#8220;malfunctions&#8221; on supposedly cutting edge, top of the line space equipment, it causes one to wonder.  They, and I say &#8220;they&#8221; as an all-inclusive, conspiracy related term&#8230;(you know who you are!!) They can&#8217;t honestly expect the public to believe that a mult-millon dollar piece of technology, created by arguably the smartest people on the face of the earth, malfunctions on a regular basis can they??!! I mean SERIOUSLY&#8230;.c&#8217;mon Bilderberg Group, F.E.M.A., C.I.A., N.S.A., with your black helicopters, and you&#8217;re worldwide influence&#8230;.honestly, you can do better than that can&#8217;t ya???!!! Oh well&#8230;.I guess they will continue to treat the general public like mushrooms(feed them crap, and keep them in the dark) until the end of time!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537667</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was tongue in cheek, but I should note that VxWorks is built by a Linux based software framework.  So it is, like, Linux-Tempered, as it were.  

Interesting link, thanks. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was tongue in cheek, but I should note that VxWorks is built by a Linux based software framework.  So it is, like, Linux-Tempered, as it were.  </p>
<p>Interesting link, thanks. </p>
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		By: Ray Ingles		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537666</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Ingles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know the Linux crack was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/mbj/mars_pathfinder/mars_pathfinder.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reboots on Mars missions aren&#039;t new&lt;/a&gt;.

Sometimes reliability requires not just a solid OS but a really solid debugging system. Apparently VxWorks has that. I&#039;m a big proponent of Linux, but I&#039;m willing to give the NASA engineers the benefit of the doubt on this one. Since it&#039;s already been running for its planned lifecycle, hardware issues aren&#039;t out of the question, either.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the Linux crack was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/mbj/mars_pathfinder/mars_pathfinder.html" rel="nofollow">reboots on Mars missions aren&#8217;t new</a>.</p>
<p>Sometimes reliability requires not just a solid OS but a really solid debugging system. Apparently VxWorks has that. I&#8217;m a big proponent of Linux, but I&#8217;m willing to give the NASA engineers the benefit of the doubt on this one. Since it&#8217;s already been running for its planned lifecycle, hardware issues aren&#8217;t out of the question, either.</p>
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		By: BAllanJ		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/10/mars-recon-orbiter-restarts-mi/#comment-537665</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BAllanJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, &#039;cause Linux has always shown itself to be more robust against cosmic rays...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, &#8217;cause Linux has always shown itself to be more robust against cosmic rays&#8230;</p>
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