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		By: Ray Ingles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Ingles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Some people, when confronted with a problem, think &#039;I know, I&#039;ll use regular expressions.&#039; Now they have two problems.&quot; - Jamie Zawinski

That&#039;s humorously overstated, of course, but regular expressions can get awfully hairy for more complex cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Some people, when confronted with a problem, think &#8216;I know, I&#8217;ll use regular expressions.&#8217; Now they have two problems.&#8221; &#8211; Jamie Zawinski</p>
<p>That&#8217;s humorously overstated, of course, but regular expressions can get awfully hairy for more complex cases.</p>
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		By: GrayGaffer		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/01/classic-shell-scripting-1/#comment-536198</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*nix runs the various components of a compound command (i..e. with pipes or `` or ;) as concurrent processes. Windows used to run them sequentially, not starting one until its predecessor had finished producing output and terminated. Is this still the case, or does XP/Vista run them concurrently now? The difference can be quite significant in terms of resources used and time to first output.

I also recall Windows had a very restricted concept of redirection - e.g. no equivalent to 2&gt;&amp; - and an equally restricted concept of Regular Expressions. Yes, it could &#039;pattern match&#039;, but give it multiple * (e.g. ab*de*ff) and it would fall apart. Is this all fixed too? I mistrust it so much in the area of shell scripting that when I am forced to use Windows I script in bash under cygwin. Or write Perl or Tcl scripts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*nix runs the various components of a compound command (i..e. with pipes or &#8220; or 😉 as concurrent processes. Windows used to run them sequentially, not starting one until its predecessor had finished producing output and terminated. Is this still the case, or does XP/Vista run them concurrently now? The difference can be quite significant in terms of resources used and time to first output.</p>
<p>I also recall Windows had a very restricted concept of redirection &#8211; e.g. no equivalent to 2>&#038; &#8211; and an equally restricted concept of Regular Expressions. Yes, it could &#8216;pattern match&#8217;, but give it multiple * (e.g. ab*de*ff) and it would fall apart. Is this all fixed too? I mistrust it so much in the area of shell scripting that when I am forced to use Windows I script in bash under cygwin. Or write Perl or Tcl scripts.</p>
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		By: Stu		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/01/classic-shell-scripting-1/#comment-536197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Look in virtually any Microsoft Office file, for instance, and you will see gobbledygook.&lt;/i&gt;

For the record, that&#039;s no longer the case with Office 2007.

Also, I only discovered last week that Windows&#039;s FINDSTR supports regular expressions as well, and has for a long time.

Yes, the Windows command-line doesn&#039;t hold a candle to bash (well, at least not without installing PowerShell, at which point it&#039;s arguably more powerful), but it&#039;s not THAT bad  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Look in virtually any Microsoft Office file, for instance, and you will see gobbledygook.</i></p>
<p>For the record, that&#8217;s no longer the case with Office 2007.</p>
<p>Also, I only discovered last week that Windows&#8217;s FINDSTR supports regular expressions as well, and has for a long time.</p>
<p>Yes, the Windows command-line doesn&#8217;t hold a candle to bash (well, at least not without installing PowerShell, at which point it&#8217;s arguably more powerful), but it&#8217;s not THAT bad  🙂</p>
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		By: Django Fett		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/06/01/classic-shell-scripting-1/#comment-536196</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Django Fett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NIce post. I&#039;ve been a Linux user for about a year now and I love it. I&#039;m currently running Arch on my desktop, Debian on my laptop, and have a server running Gentoo. Keep up the good work, I always enjoy your Linux posts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIce post. I&#8217;ve been a Linux user for about a year now and I love it. I&#8217;m currently running Arch on my desktop, Debian on my laptop, and have a server running Gentoo. Keep up the good work, I always enjoy your Linux posts.</p>
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