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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So does &quot;Wire Recorder&quot;...]]></description>
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		By: Bill		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/05/30/dvds-suck-all-the-time-in-all/#comment-536138</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS
Vertical Helix Scanner (VHS)
Sounds way cooler than Digital Video Disc (DVD)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS<br />
Vertical Helix Scanner (VHS)<br />
Sounds way cooler than Digital Video Disc (DVD)</p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/05/30/dvds-suck-all-the-time-in-all/#comment-536137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I HATE DVD&#039;S. When babysitting my grandkids I put in one of their movies &#038; after the irritating commercials it FINALLY gets to the FBI warning which takes just long enough for the kids to lose interest &#038; then the movie starts at the end of the movie. So now I have to figure out how to get to scene selection to start at beginning. VHS is SO SUPERIOR, Don&#039;t have to worry about scratches or dust. I have VHS tapes that are 27 years old &#038; still work perfect &#038; I can very easily copy them &#038; play them on ANY vhs player.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HATE DVD&#8217;S. When babysitting my grandkids I put in one of their movies &amp; after the irritating commercials it FINALLY gets to the FBI warning which takes just long enough for the kids to lose interest &amp; then the movie starts at the end of the movie. So now I have to figure out how to get to scene selection to start at beginning. VHS is SO SUPERIOR, Don&#8217;t have to worry about scratches or dust. I have VHS tapes that are 27 years old &amp; still work perfect &amp; I can very easily copy them &amp; play them on ANY vhs player.</p>
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		By: Ivan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/05/30/dvds-suck-all-the-time-in-all/#comment-536136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Oh, and you have to use Windows if that&#039;s a problem for you.
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Bingo. Microsoft: Making children sad since 1975. And even if I was forced to use it, why would I buy crap from your company to do the same thing that GPL software already does?

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There&#039;s some very typical obsessive geek behaviour here, though :-)
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Duh. ;^) And it wouldn&#039;t be half as much fun if it weren&#039;t illegal. (kidding) You&#039;re right, the law is fucked up, but at least it&#039;s also largely irrelevant and toothless.]]></description>
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Oh, and you have to use Windows if that&#8217;s a problem for you.
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<p>Bingo. Microsoft: Making children sad since 1975. And even if I was forced to use it, why would I buy crap from your company to do the same thing that GPL software already does?</p>
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There&#8217;s some very typical obsessive geek behaviour here, though 🙂
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<p>Duh. ;^) And it wouldn&#8217;t be half as much fun if it weren&#8217;t illegal. (kidding) You&#8217;re right, the law is fucked up, but at least it&#8217;s also largely irrelevant and toothless.</p>
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		By: andy o		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andy o]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow, I guess I am buying the wrong DVDs. I couldn&#039;t swear to it (especially since they are now packed for moving), but I don&#039;t think any of the DVDs I own (which, admittedly, is not a huge number) actually have commercials, so it never occurred to me that this is a problem.

Posted by: moopheus &#124; May 31, 2009 7:14 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s basically an individual DVD (or possibly a studio) thing. As someone mentioned above, there are &quot;prohibited user operations&quot; that the people who master the DVD can set, so you can&#039;t do some stuff like FF, RW or skip to menu. This was more common with older movies, but today most of them if I&#039;m not mistaken (only watching blurays recently) already don&#039;t set PUO&#039;s for commercials, but only for FBI warnings, studio logos, and such kind of crap (which, at 3 or more in a row can get just as annoying, but still).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow, I guess I am buying the wrong DVDs. I couldn&#8217;t swear to it (especially since they are now packed for moving), but I don&#8217;t think any of the DVDs I own (which, admittedly, is not a huge number) actually have commercials, so it never occurred to me that this is a problem.</p>
<p>Posted by: moopheus | May 31, 2009 7:14 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s basically an individual DVD (or possibly a studio) thing. As someone mentioned above, there are &#8220;prohibited user operations&#8221; that the people who master the DVD can set, so you can&#8217;t do some stuff like FF, RW or skip to menu. This was more common with older movies, but today most of them if I&#8217;m not mistaken (only watching blurays recently) already don&#8217;t set PUO&#8217;s for commercials, but only for FBI warnings, studio logos, and such kind of crap (which, at 3 or more in a row can get just as annoying, but still).</p>
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		By: andy o		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/05/30/dvds-suck-all-the-time-in-all/#comment-536134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andy o]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, you&#039;re complaining about DVD&#039;s? Bluray will give you a heart attack!

In both cases though, the easiest way is to go with a laptop and AnyDVD (&quot;HD&quot; version for bluray). It&#039;s the only program with such an incredibly neat feature that it &quot;remasters&quot; your DVD &lt;b&gt;on-the-fly&lt;/b&gt; (so &lt;i&gt;no need for ripping&lt;/i&gt;), getting rid of region, PUO&#039;s (so you&#039;ll be able to skip) and other such nuisances. You can then use any free software player of your liking without worrying if it can skip stuff or not.

I&#039;m an HTPC geek, and Slysoft&#039;s AnyDVD HD is by far the only program that it&#039;s worth paying for in that realm (the commercial bluray players all suck, especially PowerDVD).

Give it a try, there&#039;s a 21-day free trial at slysoft.com.

There is one caveat though, the super crappy Panasonic a.k.a. &quot;Matshita&quot; drives that have region lock that can&#039;t be hacked. These super cheapo drives come with many laptops unfortunately, but you can easily buy an external one or replace it with a NEC drive.

Oh, and you have to use Windows if that&#039;s a problem for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you&#8217;re complaining about DVD&#8217;s? Bluray will give you a heart attack!</p>
<p>In both cases though, the easiest way is to go with a laptop and AnyDVD (&#8220;HD&#8221; version for bluray). It&#8217;s the only program with such an incredibly neat feature that it &#8220;remasters&#8221; your DVD <b>on-the-fly</b> (so <i>no need for ripping</i>), getting rid of region, PUO&#8217;s (so you&#8217;ll be able to skip) and other such nuisances. You can then use any free software player of your liking without worrying if it can skip stuff or not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an HTPC geek, and Slysoft&#8217;s AnyDVD HD is by far the only program that it&#8217;s worth paying for in that realm (the commercial bluray players all suck, especially PowerDVD).</p>
<p>Give it a try, there&#8217;s a 21-day free trial at slysoft.com.</p>
<p>There is one caveat though, the super crappy Panasonic a.k.a. &#8220;Matshita&#8221; drives that have region lock that can&#8217;t be hacked. These super cheapo drives come with many laptops unfortunately, but you can easily buy an external one or replace it with a NEC drive.</p>
<p>Oh, and you have to use Windows if that&#8217;s a problem for you.</p>
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		By: Julius		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/05/30/dvds-suck-all-the-time-in-all/#comment-536133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s some very typical obsessive geek behaviour here, though :-) Greg points out the *legal* issue, and a bunch of you respond with &quot;oh, I just use &#039;mplayer -option -arcane-settings -foo -bar&#039; on the command line and it works beautifully&quot;. Sure, it&#039;s worth mentioning that there are technical ways to get around it. But it&#039;s kind of missing the point to go on about it that much - it&#039;s ILLEGAL. For home use, that might not matter much, but for the situation outlined - classroom or presentation use - that&#039;s a serious issue. You might get away with it most of the time, but having to routinely break the law in order to do a perfectly legitimate job is just broken, in a way that no amount of DMCA-violating open source software will fix.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s some very typical obsessive geek behaviour here, though 🙂 Greg points out the *legal* issue, and a bunch of you respond with &#8220;oh, I just use &#8216;mplayer -option -arcane-settings -foo -bar&#8217; on the command line and it works beautifully&#8221;. Sure, it&#8217;s worth mentioning that there are technical ways to get around it. But it&#8217;s kind of missing the point to go on about it that much &#8211; it&#8217;s ILLEGAL. For home use, that might not matter much, but for the situation outlined &#8211; classroom or presentation use &#8211; that&#8217;s a serious issue. You might get away with it most of the time, but having to routinely break the law in order to do a perfectly legitimate job is just broken, in a way that no amount of DMCA-violating open source software will fix.</p>
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		By: moopheus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moopheus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, I guess I am buying the wrong DVDs. I couldn&#039;t swear to it (especially since they are now packed for moving), but I don&#039;t think any of the DVDs I own (which, admittedly, is not a huge number) actually have commercials, so it never occurred to me that this is a problem. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I guess I am buying the wrong DVDs. I couldn&#8217;t swear to it (especially since they are now packed for moving), but I don&#8217;t think any of the DVDs I own (which, admittedly, is not a huge number) actually have commercials, so it never occurred to me that this is a problem. </p>
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		By: davem		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 18:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m having trouble understanding this problem. In the UK, where I am, DVDs are way better than tape. I don&#039;t have to watch &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; part of a DVD if I don&#039;t want to. All DVD players have fast forwards which work just fine.  Is this a US-only (region 1) problem?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having trouble understanding this problem. In the UK, where I am, DVDs are way better than tape. I don&#8217;t have to watch <i>any</i> part of a DVD if I don&#8217;t want to. All DVD players have fast forwards which work just fine.  Is this a US-only (region 1) problem?</p>
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		By: Ivan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comment #3 about using mplayer is probably the best advice if you can play your DVDs on a computer (VLC is coming along well too, for those who&#039;re afraid of the commandline). You also need to know how to figure out which &quot;title&quot; (this has a particular meaning in the DVD standard) on the disc you want to play in the first place, so here&#039;s an example:

&lt;pre&gt;my_prompt$ mplayer -vo null -ao null -frames 0 -identify dvd:// 2&#062;/dev/null &#124; grep ID_DVD_TITLE&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLES=3&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_1_CHAPTERS=1&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_1_ANGLES=1&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_2_CHAPTERS=13&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_2_ANGLES=1&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_3_CHAPTERS=1&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_3_ANGLES=1&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_1_LENGTH=16.000&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_2_LENGTH=8100.867&lt;br&gt;ID_DVD_TITLE_3_LENGTH=105.000&lt;/pre&gt;

From the length and number of chapters of title 2, it&#039;s obviously the main feature. Let&#039;s suppose we also know that we want to jump right to chapter 6:

&lt;pre&gt;my_prompt$ mplayer dvd://2 -chapter 6&lt;/pre&gt;

As Colin mentioned, you can also use the -ss option to jump to a particular time index inside the title.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment #3 about using mplayer is probably the best advice if you can play your DVDs on a computer (VLC is coming along well too, for those who&#8217;re afraid of the commandline). You also need to know how to figure out which &#8220;title&#8221; (this has a particular meaning in the DVD standard) on the disc you want to play in the first place, so here&#8217;s an example:</p>
<pre>my_prompt$ mplayer -vo null -ao null -frames 0 -identify dvd:// 2&gt;/dev/null | grep ID_DVD_TITLE<br /><br />ID_DVD_TITLES=3<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_1_CHAPTERS=1<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_1_ANGLES=1<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_2_CHAPTERS=13<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_2_ANGLES=1<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_3_CHAPTERS=1<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_3_ANGLES=1<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_1_LENGTH=16.000<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_2_LENGTH=8100.867<br />ID_DVD_TITLE_3_LENGTH=105.000</pre>
<p>From the length and number of chapters of title 2, it&#8217;s obviously the main feature. Let&#8217;s suppose we also know that we want to jump right to chapter 6:</p>
<pre>my_prompt$ mplayer dvd://2 -chapter 6</pre>
<p>As Colin mentioned, you can also use the -ss option to jump to a particular time index inside the title.</p>
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