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		By: CJ		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/04/08/pirates-take-ship-crew-takes-s/#comment-533927</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The best part was when they tried to barter for the captain back with food.  The crew&#039;s spokesman was saying &#039;it&#039;s uh.. not going too good at the moment&#039;.  Broke up an otherwise typically monotonous day of listening to news feeds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part was when they tried to barter for the captain back with food.  The crew&#8217;s spokesman was saying &#8216;it&#8217;s uh.. not going too good at the moment&#8217;.  Broke up an otherwise typically monotonous day of listening to news feeds.</p>
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		By: Spiv		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/04/08/pirates-take-ship-crew-takes-s/#comment-533926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spiv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg: no connection. I don&#039;t believe the crew members were armed anyway. Most of these shipping companies forbid such things.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: no connection. I don&#8217;t believe the crew members were armed anyway. Most of these shipping companies forbid such things.</p>
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		By: the real Jean Da feat		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/04/08/pirates-take-ship-crew-takes-s/#comment-533925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the real Jean Da feat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The actual and really interestinjg thing here is that Omar Jamal, head of the Somali Justice Asoc. is apparently negotiating with the remaining pirate.
Interesting because he is the spokesmann in MPLS for Somali&#039;s, and even more interesting because so-called Somali terorist have been swept under the rug, and in the case of Mohammed Warsame, imprisoned for four plus years without trial: but pirates are just plain ol&#039; fun, and more interesting than American civil liberties...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actual and really interestinjg thing here is that Omar Jamal, head of the Somali Justice Asoc. is apparently negotiating with the remaining pirate.<br />
Interesting because he is the spokesmann in MPLS for Somali&#8217;s, and even more interesting because so-called Somali terorist have been swept under the rug, and in the case of Mohammed Warsame, imprisoned for four plus years without trial: but pirates are just plain ol&#8217; fun, and more interesting than American civil liberties&#8230;</p>
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		By: Stephen Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Modern pirates must have &lt;a href=&quot;http://stevewilsonblog.com/2009/04/08/in-all-due-respect.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one heckuva hiding place for all the loot&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern pirates must have <a href="http://stevewilsonblog.com/2009/04/08/in-all-due-respect.aspx" rel="nofollow">one heckuva hiding place for all the loot</a>.</p>
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		By: Romeo Vitelli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Romeo Vitelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Won&#039;t future pirate raids simply bring extra guns/manpower to ensure this doesn&#039;t happen again?  This is all about revenue for them so they&#039;ll make sure that nobody gets the jump on them in future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t future pirate raids simply bring extra guns/manpower to ensure this doesn&#8217;t happen again?  This is all about revenue for them so they&#8217;ll make sure that nobody gets the jump on them in future.</p>
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		By: D. C. Sessions		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/04/08/pirates-take-ship-crew-takes-s/#comment-533922</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. C. Sessions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m impressed too.  Mainly by the fact that the crew decided it was worth doing, because fighting is normally a no-win situation for the crew.  If they just put their hands up they eventually get ransomed, they&#039;re on the clock the whole time, and for all I know get some compensation for the ordeal.  If they fight back, they can get dead -- and as far as I know the owners don&#039;t pay them any bonuses.

Either way, props to the crew.  They&#039;re doing the rest of us a service.

I do wonder, though, why the Navy doesn&#039;t dispatch a squad of Marines to ships entering those waters and pull them off (by helicopter) on departure.  That&#039;s what the USMC was created to do, after all, and any pirate crew going after a ship with a squad of US Marines aboard would discover a new appreciation for the difference between &quot;amateur&quot; and &quot;professional.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed too.  Mainly by the fact that the crew decided it was worth doing, because fighting is normally a no-win situation for the crew.  If they just put their hands up they eventually get ransomed, they&#8217;re on the clock the whole time, and for all I know get some compensation for the ordeal.  If they fight back, they can get dead &#8212; and as far as I know the owners don&#8217;t pay them any bonuses.</p>
<p>Either way, props to the crew.  They&#8217;re doing the rest of us a service.</p>
<p>I do wonder, though, why the Navy doesn&#8217;t dispatch a squad of Marines to ships entering those waters and pull them off (by helicopter) on departure.  That&#8217;s what the USMC was created to do, after all, and any pirate crew going after a ship with a squad of US Marines aboard would discover a new appreciation for the difference between &#8220;amateur&#8221; and &#8220;professional.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Stacy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;International naval forces from several countries, including the U.S. Navy, are sending vessels to the scene. According to one source, the pirates are essentially &quot;all alone, more then 300 miles out to sea, and warships from several countries are on the way.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hah! Take THAT bitches!!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>International naval forces from several countries, including the U.S. Navy, are sending vessels to the scene. According to one source, the pirates are essentially &#8220;all alone, more then 300 miles out to sea, and warships from several countries are on the way.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>Hah! Take THAT bitches!!</p>
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		By: Virgil Samms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Virgil Samms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Things still sound a bit unsettled:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gB7YMEDuCwwY9ncDOtPAkEI4-H2wD97EG57O0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crew on US ship say Somali pirates hold captain&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The cavalry is en route:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/08/somalia-pirates-captain-hostage&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Warship heads for scene of Indian Ocean standoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would think some of those warships have helicopters available?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things still sound a bit unsettled:<br /><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gB7YMEDuCwwY9ncDOtPAkEI4-H2wD97EG57O0" rel="nofollow">Crew on US ship say Somali pirates hold captain</a><br />
<br />
The cavalry is en route:<br /><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/08/somalia-pirates-captain-hostage" rel="nofollow">Warship heads for scene of Indian Ocean standoff</a><br />I would think some of those warships have helicopters available?</p>
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		By: Brian X		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg:

I don&#039;t think the 2nd Amendment enters into it here, does it? After all, the piracy problem is well known by now -- surely the crew was packing legally?

Anyway, what I want to know is why it seems like the US Navy is taking point on this. Isn&#039;t India the largest power in the area? Where&#039;s South Africa, or Kenya, or Pakistan, or, hell, why not, Indonesia?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the 2nd Amendment enters into it here, does it? After all, the piracy problem is well known by now &#8212; surely the crew was packing legally?</p>
<p>Anyway, what I want to know is why it seems like the US Navy is taking point on this. Isn&#8217;t India the largest power in the area? Where&#8217;s South Africa, or Kenya, or Pakistan, or, hell, why not, Indonesia?</p>
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		By: Jackal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gun laws didn&#039;t keep those pirates from having guns, so... guns for everyone!

Didn&#039;t want to keep you waiting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gun laws didn&#8217;t keep those pirates from having guns, so&#8230; guns for everyone!</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t want to keep you waiting.</p>
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