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		By: dominican republic real estate		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/03/12/when-kissing-cousins-get-to-th-1/#comment-532475</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dominican republic real estate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cousin marriage might be legal or illegal is not the factor, the longevity is fragile and it hampers your family relation as well. You should not marry anyone of your family member to avoid the long term family trouble.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cousin marriage might be legal or illegal is not the factor, the longevity is fragile and it hampers your family relation as well. You should not marry anyone of your family member to avoid the long term family trouble.</p>
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		By: khan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There was an interesting case at work.

Jane married Mike, they had a daughter, they divorced all within 1 yeara.

Within a year Jane married Frank (Mike&#039;s brother), and they had a daughter.

The daughters are cousins and half sisters and about 3 years apart.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an interesting case at work.</p>
<p>Jane married Mike, they had a daughter, they divorced all within 1 yeara.</p>
<p>Within a year Jane married Frank (Mike&#8217;s brother), and they had a daughter.</p>
<p>The daughters are cousins and half sisters and about 3 years apart.</p>
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		By: clinteas		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/03/12/when-kissing-cousins-get-to-th-1/#comment-532473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clinteas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Your cousin may be kinda cute, you never know.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So might your sister.....

*ducks*

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your cousin may be kinda cute, you never know.</p></blockquote>
<p>So might your sister&#8230;..</p>
<p>*ducks*</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have used this and similar stories as well in a teaching context.  Given each son, calculate r.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used this and similar stories as well in a teaching context.  Given each son, calculate r.  </p>
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		By: Duae Quartunciae		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/03/12/when-kissing-cousins-get-to-th-1/#comment-532471</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duae Quartunciae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For an exercise in drawing family trees, try out Abraham&#039;s family tree, based on information from the first half of Genesis. I used to use this in a computing class for a hard test case in data structures to represent relationships.

The most convoluted example is from Genesis 19; a story probably told by the ancient Israelites as a way of insulting nearby tribes of the Ammonites and the Moabites.

Lot (Abraham&#039;s nephew) escaped from the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah with his two daughters. No other men were available, so the daughters decided to have children by their father Lot. They both bore sons to their own father -- who were designated as the ancestors of the Ammonites and the Moabites respectively.

The two boys are thus brothers. (Same father). They are also cousins. (Their mothers are sisters). Each is also the uncle and the nephew of the other. (The two mothers are their sisters as well, and hence children are nephews).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an exercise in drawing family trees, try out Abraham&#8217;s family tree, based on information from the first half of Genesis. I used to use this in a computing class for a hard test case in data structures to represent relationships.</p>
<p>The most convoluted example is from Genesis 19; a story probably told by the ancient Israelites as a way of insulting nearby tribes of the Ammonites and the Moabites.</p>
<p>Lot (Abraham&#8217;s nephew) escaped from the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah with his two daughters. No other men were available, so the daughters decided to have children by their father Lot. They both bore sons to their own father &#8212; who were designated as the ancestors of the Ammonites and the Moabites respectively.</p>
<p>The two boys are thus brothers. (Same father). They are also cousins. (Their mothers are sisters). Each is also the uncle and the nephew of the other. (The two mothers are their sisters as well, and hence children are nephews).</p>
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		By: Erp		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One set of my great grandparents were first cousins (though they later divorced).  My grandmother and several of her siblings lived well into their 80s.  

If you want complications in the family tree try for a double first cousin marriage (not in my direct ancestral line, two sisters married two brothers and two of the children married [they had no children], then there was the third sister whose daughter married her first cousin and had an affair with her husband&#039;s [but not her] first cousin [and did have children but by which father?]).  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One set of my great grandparents were first cousins (though they later divorced).  My grandmother and several of her siblings lived well into their 80s.  </p>
<p>If you want complications in the family tree try for a double first cousin marriage (not in my direct ancestral line, two sisters married two brothers and two of the children married [they had no children], then there was the third sister whose daughter married her first cousin and had an affair with her husband&#8217;s [but not her] first cousin [and did have children but by which father?]).  </p>
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		By: Scott Simmons		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/03/12/when-kissing-cousins-get-to-th-1/#comment-532469</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Simmons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was in junior high, I had a school assignment to make a family tree. I had a very useful resource for this; some geneaology enthusiast who had traced their ancestors back to a 17th-century German immigrant had then traced back down the chain to find that person&#039;s descendants, put the whole thing into book form, and marketed it to the living members of that group. My grandparents (my maternal grandmother was one of said descendants) had purchased a copy, so I had the opportunity to get a big posterboard and sketch out my family tree back some fifteen generations. Cool!

So, I&#039;m at my grandparents&#039; house doing my research for that, but I hit a confusing bit. Some back-and-forth between the branches verified the source of my problem--two of my great-great-grandparents were first cousins. I started to ask my mother about this, but she shushed me. &quot;Grandma&#039;s in the next room,&quot; she said, &quot;and she doesn&#039;t like to talk about that.&quot;

As far as I can tell, there are no health repercussions showing up in my family from this. If you&#039;re thinking about marrying a cousin, though, I do need to warn you: it will make for a major pain in the ass for your great-nth grandchildren when they&#039;re drawing a family tree for a school project. Seriously. That relationship&#039;s so damn hard to draw. :)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in junior high, I had a school assignment to make a family tree. I had a very useful resource for this; some geneaology enthusiast who had traced their ancestors back to a 17th-century German immigrant had then traced back down the chain to find that person&#8217;s descendants, put the whole thing into book form, and marketed it to the living members of that group. My grandparents (my maternal grandmother was one of said descendants) had purchased a copy, so I had the opportunity to get a big posterboard and sketch out my family tree back some fifteen generations. Cool!</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m at my grandparents&#8217; house doing my research for that, but I hit a confusing bit. Some back-and-forth between the branches verified the source of my problem&#8211;two of my great-great-grandparents were first cousins. I started to ask my mother about this, but she shushed me. &#8220;Grandma&#8217;s in the next room,&#8221; she said, &#8220;and she doesn&#8217;t like to talk about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, there are no health repercussions showing up in my family from this. If you&#8217;re thinking about marrying a cousin, though, I do need to warn you: it will make for a major pain in the ass for your great-nth grandchildren when they&#8217;re drawing a family tree for a school project. Seriously. That relationship&#8217;s so damn hard to draw. 🙂</p>
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		By: Barbara W.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny but I just ran into a woman with a ton of problems last week. She actually said to me that the source of the problems was &quot;in-breeding.&quot;

Two first cousins had married and their off-spring, including her mother, had various physical defects. She herself had spinal nerve problems for which she had recently had major surgery. She showed me her long scar up her back and talked of other problems she and members of her family had. Her mother was born without a hip. She was born with an in-turned foot and scoliosis. 

I was in shock that she admitted this all so freely. There were other people around in this store. She was angry about it all I guess and felt that others should be warned about what she referred to as &quot;southern in-breeding.&quot; 

I&#039;m sure it doesn&#039;t happen all the time but it sure did in this family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny but I just ran into a woman with a ton of problems last week. She actually said to me that the source of the problems was &#8220;in-breeding.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two first cousins had married and their off-spring, including her mother, had various physical defects. She herself had spinal nerve problems for which she had recently had major surgery. She showed me her long scar up her back and talked of other problems she and members of her family had. Her mother was born without a hip. She was born with an in-turned foot and scoliosis. </p>
<p>I was in shock that she admitted this all so freely. There were other people around in this store. She was angry about it all I guess and felt that others should be warned about what she referred to as &#8220;southern in-breeding.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it doesn&#8217;t happen all the time but it sure did in this family.</p>
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		By: outeast		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[outeast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regardless of its validity*, doesn&#039;t the argument that &#039;laws barring cousin marriage use coercive means to achieve a public purpose and thus would seem to qualify as eugenics&#039; apply equally to laws governing &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; familial marriage, including mother-son, sibling-sibling, etc?

*To me the most immediately obvious potential issues are the scope of &#039;eugenics&#039; and &#039;public purpose&#039; and the sufficiency of the latter for the definition of the former...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of its validity*, doesn&#8217;t the argument that &#8216;laws barring cousin marriage use coercive means to achieve a public purpose and thus would seem to qualify as eugenics&#8217; apply equally to laws governing <i>any</i> familial marriage, including mother-son, sibling-sibling, etc?</p>
<p>*To me the most immediately obvious potential issues are the scope of &#8216;eugenics&#8217; and &#8216;public purpose&#8217; and the sufficiency of the latter for the definition of the former&#8230;</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your time and answer Greg.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your time and answer Greg.</p>
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