And while I find the Duggars absolutely disgusting, they HAVE (even before the media blitz) always managed to support themselves entirely, subscribing to the ideology of “debt-free lifestyle” (and severe frugality). Also, their (admittedly insane) religious beliefs force them to abstain from all birth control and family planning.

I believe most people’s distaste for Suleiman stems from the fact that it appears her sole motivation in having fourteen children she can’t support stems from her desire for fame. Considering how frequently her appearance is compared to that of Angelina Jolie, I’m having a hard time seeing how she is being discriminated against because of her race.

Anyway, if anyone would like to read my MLK day article about race relations, you can find it here.

Heck, I love children, too, and would love to have more – would the rest of you mind paying for IVF, oh and medical care for the delivery, and perhaps some food and housing costs after my triplets (I won’t need octuplets – triplets will suffice) are born?

The outrage here as opposed to previous cases is largely because most cases of large multiple births like this, the parents didn’t do it on purpose. In most cases, they were getting fertility treatments and erred way to far on the side of makign sure at least oen embryo took, or at least it wasn’t reported that way. At least, they didn’t give the impression that the kids were a way to get on TV and they were expecting the public to help. i think rationally, it is quite sensible to distinguish between giving charity to peopel who unintentionally find themselves in need and those who create need on purpose and then count on charity to bail them out.

From the soudn of it, the doctor was implanting embryos directly into the uterine lining, which should have a much higher success rate than the usual dropping them in loose to see if they implant, so he doesn’t have the excuse of not expecting this many to take. I hope the publicity results in attention on the ethics of this sort of thing.

I fully intend to clone myself 14 times and go on welfare.

I’m entitled and you can’t stop me.

Soren: “what is is that makes MEN indenture servants?”
Indentured as you know is a term of servitude usually doing menial labor; men, because once cuckolded by women like your heroine who use child bearing as a substitute for Prozac to make themselves feel good. I doubt you would know much about the baby making game that many women play, but suffice it to say that whereas women have the ‘right’ to do what this woman did, society as a whole only punishes men with the 18 years of indentured taxpayer punishment, as the courts have yet to recognize a mans right to say ‘if you want it, you pay for it’ to the women who choose the state assisted and subsidized baby farming occupation.

Or in other words, go back in the history books–Howard Zinn does a great job discussing it-and watch how mens rights to the children they fathered were eroded by masters who held men and their children in bondage by forcing men to pay egregious sums of money in order to get their children off the plantation.

So, your heroine, this particular baby farmer–is just a high profile example of the statistic “90% of single parent households are led by women” which is shorthand for “let’s agree not to discuss wage bondage, and the scapegoating of lower income males”.

I noticed that. It could be fore real but like you I did not get that impression.

let’s give me a show because I am a child specialist. It takes more than popping in a bunch of embryos to make you a child specialist.

I predict that some day she’s going to be on Super Nanny. But not as the nanny.