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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think they are going to prosecute for the crime of &quot;marriage.&quot;  It will be for the crime of improper filing of paperwork.Which, until the Patriot Act, was not a big deal.  I think now maybe they can be waterboarded if they don&#039;t talk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they are going to prosecute for the crime of &#8220;marriage.&#8221;  It will be for the crime of improper filing of paperwork.Which, until the Patriot Act, was not a big deal.  I think now maybe they can be waterboarded if they don&#8217;t talk.</p>
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		By: Dee		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/23/if-marriage-is-a-sacred-bond-b-1/#comment-10257</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, the State of Virginia is on a slippery slope here. If they don&#039;t prosecute, it can be said that they condone same sex marriages. OK. Fine. But if they DO prosecute, they are acknowledging that a same sex marriage took place in their system. Why you ask? How can you prosecute someone for illegal marriage if the &quot;marriage&quot; is a nullity under the law? This is not marriage by fraud, false pretense or any other criminal act. It is an ATTEMPT by two people who cannot legally marry in the state to get married. Since that&#039;s not possible, they cant be prosecuted for illegal marriage. If the State insists on this prosecution, they will be admitting that the couple is married. If they admit the couple is married, then guess what? The State of Virginia just sanctioned a same sex marriage. It&#039;s sort of like arresting someone for murder when the deceased is still alive.Keep an eye on this one folks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the State of Virginia is on a slippery slope here. If they don&#8217;t prosecute, it can be said that they condone same sex marriages. OK. Fine. But if they DO prosecute, they are acknowledging that a same sex marriage took place in their system. Why you ask? How can you prosecute someone for illegal marriage if the &#8220;marriage&#8221; is a nullity under the law? This is not marriage by fraud, false pretense or any other criminal act. It is an ATTEMPT by two people who cannot legally marry in the state to get married. Since that&#8217;s not possible, they cant be prosecuted for illegal marriage. If the State insists on this prosecution, they will be admitting that the couple is married. If they admit the couple is married, then guess what? The State of Virginia just sanctioned a same sex marriage. It&#8217;s sort of like arresting someone for murder when the deceased is still alive.Keep an eye on this one folks.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The photograph above is me.  (But not the one on this post.  You have to go over the the left side of the page.)Click on &#039;source&#039; to see a much better version of the picture above (I shrunk it and compressed it for the blog)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photograph above is me.  (But not the one on this post.  You have to go over the the left side of the page.)Click on &#8216;source&#8217; to see a much better version of the picture above (I shrunk it and compressed it for the blog)</p>
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		By: Jamie C.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey,Enjoyed your article very much.  Wanted to explore your ideas when incorporating the following tags or brands: Transgendered, Transexual, Transvesite, Cross Dresser, Pan Sexual, and whatever other sexual tag or brand society seems to want to lable us. I mean what do you lable a guy that prefers a relationship with one of these special ladies?  Also wanted to ask if the picture of the lovely lady was you?  If so you have a devote admirer.  Simply beautiful with a great mind to boot.HugsJamie in Central California]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,Enjoyed your article very much.  Wanted to explore your ideas when incorporating the following tags or brands: Transgendered, Transexual, Transvesite, Cross Dresser, Pan Sexual, and whatever other sexual tag or brand society seems to want to lable us. I mean what do you lable a guy that prefers a relationship with one of these special ladies?  Also wanted to ask if the picture of the lovely lady was you?  If so you have a devote admirer.  Simply beautiful with a great mind to boot.HugsJamie in Central California</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/23/if-marriage-is-a-sacred-bond-b-1/#comment-10254</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The underlying reality is far more complicated than the surface reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The underlying reality is far more complicated than the surface reality.</p>
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		By: Sheila		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wondering what the difinition of a male/female was. Does it all come down to XX/XY? The doctors don&#039;t perform those tasks at the time of birth, they just look and say boy or girl. What about the people who have three chomosomes? I guess they don&#039;t have the right to marriage as they don&#039;t fall into either XX/XY. Let&#039;s face it, it&#039;s not as easy as it looks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering what the difinition of a male/female was. Does it all come down to XX/XY? The doctors don&#8217;t perform those tasks at the time of birth, they just look and say boy or girl. What about the people who have three chomosomes? I guess they don&#8217;t have the right to marriage as they don&#8217;t fall into either XX/XY. Let&#8217;s face it, it&#8217;s not as easy as it looks.</p>
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		By: Rose Colored Glasses		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/23/if-marriage-is-a-sacred-bond-b-1/#comment-10252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rose Colored Glasses]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marriage is binding only because a body of civil law regulates it. It can be compared to interstate commerc, or contracts, or real estate transactions. In contrast, while a christening is a sacred rite, it has no legal force whatsoever.Are XO females (Turner&#039;s syndrome) legally allowed to marry? Since they are incapable of impregnation, then wouldn&#039;t they be considered the husbands?I&#039;m still hopeful that a hermaphrodite will come out publicly and sue for equal protection. For one, since physiology cannot be deemed a &#039;lifestyle choice&#039;, then denying rights to a group solely because of their physical nature will clash resoundingly with the entire idea of equal rights. For another, the religious will despise their god(s) for allowing what they themselves consider an &#039;abomination&#039;, something &#039;unnatural&#039;. (I hope they get migraines.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage is binding only because a body of civil law regulates it. It can be compared to interstate commerc, or contracts, or real estate transactions. In contrast, while a christening is a sacred rite, it has no legal force whatsoever.Are XO females (Turner&#8217;s syndrome) legally allowed to marry? Since they are incapable of impregnation, then wouldn&#8217;t they be considered the husbands?I&#8217;m still hopeful that a hermaphrodite will come out publicly and sue for equal protection. For one, since physiology cannot be deemed a &#8216;lifestyle choice&#8217;, then denying rights to a group solely because of their physical nature will clash resoundingly with the entire idea of equal rights. For another, the religious will despise their god(s) for allowing what they themselves consider an &#8216;abomination&#8217;, something &#8216;unnatural&#8217;. (I hope they get migraines.)</p>
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		By: Michael Ivy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/23/if-marriage-is-a-sacred-bond-b-1/#comment-10251</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Ivy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Definately not legal here in MS.  Funny the lenghts people will go to for LOVE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definately not legal here in MS.  Funny the lenghts people will go to for LOVE.</p>
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		By: Zahra		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/23/if-marriage-is-a-sacred-bond-b-1/#comment-10250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zahra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This happened in Kansas. Basically, a man married a MTF transsexual (who was known to the biological male as a transsexual). J&#039;Noel, the bride, had been given a sex change on her birth certificate outside of Kansas--that is, her birth certificate had been revised to declare her female. When the groom died, his kids took J&#039;Noel to court, arguing that since she is a transsexual, the marriage was never valid in Kansas, and therefore she was not a legitimate heir. The Kansas Supreme Court agreed.Also, when we start talking about XX vs XY, it just becomes problematic, given the prevalence of &quot;middlesexed&quot; people, and people who are either XX or XY but have some other disorder that caused them to be raised as the opposite gender. So confusing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happened in Kansas. Basically, a man married a MTF transsexual (who was known to the biological male as a transsexual). J&#8217;Noel, the bride, had been given a sex change on her birth certificate outside of Kansas&#8211;that is, her birth certificate had been revised to declare her female. When the groom died, his kids took J&#8217;Noel to court, arguing that since she is a transsexual, the marriage was never valid in Kansas, and therefore she was not a legitimate heir. The Kansas Supreme Court agreed.Also, when we start talking about XX vs XY, it just becomes problematic, given the prevalence of &#8220;middlesexed&#8221; people, and people who are either XX or XY but have some other disorder that caused them to be raised as the opposite gender. So confusing.</p>
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		By: Eamon Knight		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eamon Knight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t tell the poor buggers about XY females. Their heads might explode. And then we&#039;ve got male/female chimeras....oh dear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t tell the poor buggers about XY females. Their heads might explode. And then we&#8217;ve got male/female chimeras&#8230;.oh dear.</p>
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