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		By: Dr. Rodney T. Hard		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9766</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Rodney T. Hard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was perusing your blog site and found that James posted comments about me on June 16, 2008 at 8:25 AM that were totally untrue.  I treat allergy symptoms.  I have never made a claim that I &quot;cure&quot; allergies.  James claims that my treatment consists of shocking the patient at the right frequency.  This is not true.  Our treatments do not involve shock.  He also said that it was &quot;very unsettling to know that a lot of (most? all?) insurance companies pay benefits for this woo, and that most states legally sanction it&quot;.  Well, he is wrong again.  It is not &quot;woo&quot;.  We have an 85% success rate in reducing or eliminating the frequency of symptoms, the intensity of symptoms, and the longevity of the symptoms.  Insurance companies do not pay for it.  Patients gladly pay for treatments out of their pockets and are happy with the results.  He could not have misconstrued the information on my website http://www.AllergyEraseSystem.com or any of my other sites because none of what he claims are on any of my sites.It is a shame that James, who won&#039;t even use his whole name or cite his sources, was allowed to lie and besmirch my name and reputation.  The site that he listed was a site about nutrition and that site is not active anymore.  The site was about standard researched information about minerals, vitamins, essential fatty acids, and the like.  It had nothing to do with allergies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was perusing your blog site and found that James posted comments about me on June 16, 2008 at 8:25 AM that were totally untrue.  I treat allergy symptoms.  I have never made a claim that I &#8220;cure&#8221; allergies.  James claims that my treatment consists of shocking the patient at the right frequency.  This is not true.  Our treatments do not involve shock.  He also said that it was &#8220;very unsettling to know that a lot of (most? all?) insurance companies pay benefits for this woo, and that most states legally sanction it&#8221;.  Well, he is wrong again.  It is not &#8220;woo&#8221;.  We have an 85% success rate in reducing or eliminating the frequency of symptoms, the intensity of symptoms, and the longevity of the symptoms.  Insurance companies do not pay for it.  Patients gladly pay for treatments out of their pockets and are happy with the results.  He could not have misconstrued the information on my website <a href="http://www.AllergyEraseSystem.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.AllergyEraseSystem.com</a> or any of my other sites because none of what he claims are on any of my sites.It is a shame that James, who won&#8217;t even use his whole name or cite his sources, was allowed to lie and besmirch my name and reputation.  The site that he listed was a site about nutrition and that site is not active anymore.  The site was about standard researched information about minerals, vitamins, essential fatty acids, and the like.  It had nothing to do with allergies.</p>
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		By: JanieBelle		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9765</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JanieBelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of whom, have y&#039;all &lt;a href=&quot;http://udoj.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/benny-hinn-death-metal-concert/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seen this&lt;/a&gt;?Man, that cracks me up.  (The higher the volume, the funnier it is, btw...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of whom, have y&#8217;all <a href="http://udoj.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/benny-hinn-death-metal-concert/" rel="nofollow">seen this</a>?Man, that cracks me up.  (The higher the volume, the funnier it is, btw&#8230;)</p>
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		By: JanieBelle		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9764</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JanieBelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Show me the papers, Philip.  When there&#039;s research that adequately addresses confirmation bias in the anecdotal testimony, then we can stop calling them quacks and voodoo priests.Until then, &lt;shrug&gt;...  It certainly doesn&#039;t belong in a medical schools any more than &quot;Power Crystals&quot; or &quot;Benny Hinn&#039;s Magic Whop on the Head&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me the papers, Philip.  When there&#8217;s research that adequately addresses confirmation bias in the anecdotal testimony, then we can stop calling them quacks and voodoo priests.Until then, <shrug>&#8230;  It certainly doesn&#8217;t belong in a medical schools any more than &#8220;Power Crystals&#8221; or &#8220;Benny Hinn&#8217;s Magic Whop on the Head&#8221;</shrug></p>
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		By: Aaron Golas		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9763</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Golas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Science-Based Medicine had an excellent post on chiropractors and stroke several weeks ago: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=94&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=94&lt;/a&gt;.Parts of the spine can become misaligned or dislocated, yes.  But spinal subluxations (actual, painful, physical dislocation of the vertebrae) are nothing like the imaginary &quot;vertebral subluxations&quot; (supposed nerve blockages that cause body ailments) that chiropractors claim to treat.  The principle of vertebral subluxation, upon which chiropractic was founded and continued to function, is pure woo.  And that&#039;s not even touching the other woos that so often accompany chiropractic, like applied kinesiology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science-Based Medicine had an excellent post on chiropractors and stroke several weeks ago: <a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=94" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=94</a>.Parts of the spine can become misaligned or dislocated, yes.  But spinal subluxations (actual, painful, physical dislocation of the vertebrae) are nothing like the imaginary &#8220;vertebral subluxations&#8221; (supposed nerve blockages that cause body ailments) that chiropractors claim to treat.  The principle of vertebral subluxation, upon which chiropractic was founded and continued to function, is pure woo.  And that&#8217;s not even touching the other woos that so often accompany chiropractic, like applied kinesiology.</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9762</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip, accelerated compared to what? It&#039;s an easy claim to make but very hard to test without much more advanced cloning technology than we currently have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, accelerated compared to what? It&#8217;s an easy claim to make but very hard to test without much more advanced cloning technology than we currently have.</p>
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		By: Philip H.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9761</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Never been to a chiropractor, though having a cracked vertebrae and two crushed disks would seem to call for it.  Never been to an accupuncturist either, nor an herbalist, nor a . . . . . well you get the idea.  But I have many friends who use some or all of these services.  And none of them has ever reported anything bad.  In fact, I have a couple of close friends who medical treatments for long term illness have been greatly accelerated by the application of &quot;non-Western&quot; medicine.  Sure, it&#039;s not a rigorous samples, but if various medical schools can teach these disciplines to compliment &quot;traditional&quot; medicine then perhaps there&#039;s something useful in them, and assigning them all to the Quacko bin isn&#039;t the appropriate response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never been to a chiropractor, though having a cracked vertebrae and two crushed disks would seem to call for it.  Never been to an accupuncturist either, nor an herbalist, nor a . . . . . well you get the idea.  But I have many friends who use some or all of these services.  And none of them has ever reported anything bad.  In fact, I have a couple of close friends who medical treatments for long term illness have been greatly accelerated by the application of &#8220;non-Western&#8221; medicine.  Sure, it&#8217;s not a rigorous samples, but if various medical schools can teach these disciplines to compliment &#8220;traditional&#8221; medicine then perhaps there&#8217;s something useful in them, and assigning them all to the Quacko bin isn&#8217;t the appropriate response.</p>
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		By: themadlolscientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9760</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[themadlolscientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chiropractors. Gaak. My former significant other&#039;s mom (then in her early 80s) went through 9 months of hell with a chiro messing with her back until she had to go to the hospital with a heart problem and the docs there realized she had advanced osteoporosis. By that time she&#039;d lost 6-7&quot; in height, had two major bouts with kidney stones from all the excreted calcium, and dropped to 78 pounds on account of being in so much pain, she didn&#039;t have enough energy to eat.fsck all chiropractors and the unicorns they rode in on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiropractors. Gaak. My former significant other&#8217;s mom (then in her early 80s) went through 9 months of hell with a chiro messing with her back until she had to go to the hospital with a heart problem and the docs there realized she had advanced osteoporosis. By that time she&#8217;d lost 6-7&#8243; in height, had two major bouts with kidney stones from all the excreted calcium, and dropped to 78 pounds on account of being in so much pain, she didn&#8217;t have enough energy to eat.fsck all chiropractors and the unicorns they rode in on.</p>
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		By: JanieBelle		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9759</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JanieBelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth, I once went to see an osteopath (or maybe an orthopod, I forget) for headaches I was having, a friend of the family.  When I first went in, he asked why I seemed a little nervous.  Now, being a big girl and all mature and stuff, I didn&#039;t want to come out and ask, &quot;Am I going to have to be half naked in front of a friend of my Dad?&quot;  Instead, I went the nonchalant route: &quot;I&#039;ve never been to a chiro before.&quot;I should have just been straightforward, because he was visibly insulted that I had made such a conflation.He explained the difference and ended with, &quot;Chiropractors are &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; doctors, they&#039;re quacks and they hurt people&quot; and I&#039;ve never repeated that mistake.I stopped having the headaches though, after he straightened out my spine.  If I ever have them again, I know where I&#039;m going, and it ain&#039;t to a chiro.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I once went to see an osteopath (or maybe an orthopod, I forget) for headaches I was having, a friend of the family.  When I first went in, he asked why I seemed a little nervous.  Now, being a big girl and all mature and stuff, I didn&#8217;t want to come out and ask, &#8220;Am I going to have to be half naked in front of a friend of my Dad?&#8221;  Instead, I went the nonchalant route: &#8220;I&#8217;ve never been to a chiro before.&#8221;I should have just been straightforward, because he was visibly insulted that I had made such a conflation.He explained the difference and ended with, &#8220;Chiropractors are <em>not</em> doctors, they&#8217;re quacks and they hurt people&#8221; and I&#8217;ve never repeated that mistake.I stopped having the headaches though, after he straightened out my spine.  If I ever have them again, I know where I&#8217;m going, and it ain&#8217;t to a chiro.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9758</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They claim all sorts of things.  Here&#039;s a sample:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.40-30-30.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dr. Rodney T. Hard&#039;s Nutritional Recommendations&lt;/a&gt;.This fellow is also involved in some allergy cure scam where allergies are said to be the result of electrical disturbances in the body.  The &quot;cure&quot; is to shock the patient at the right frequency (pet allergies are said to be one frequency, pollen allergies another, and so forth).It&#039;s very unsettling to know that a lot of (most?  all?) insurance companies pay benefits for this woo, and that most states legally sanction it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They claim all sorts of things.  Here&#8217;s a sample:<a href="http://www.40-30-30.com/" rel="nofollow nofollow" rel="nofollow">Dr. Rodney T. Hard&#8217;s Nutritional Recommendations</a>.This fellow is also involved in some allergy cure scam where allergies are said to be the result of electrical disturbances in the body.  The &#8220;cure&#8221; is to shock the patient at the right frequency (pet allergies are said to be one frequency, pollen allergies another, and so forth).It&#8217;s very unsettling to know that a lot of (most?  all?) insurance companies pay benefits for this woo, and that most states legally sanction it.</p>
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		By: Laurel		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/06/15/sacromento-woo-death/#comment-9757</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t the first case of death by chiro, and it won&#039;t be the last:http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirostroke.htmlLots of other good articles on Chirobase too.  I believe chiropractic to be woo because the theory underlying it is so very woo-riffic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the first case of death by chiro, and it won&#8217;t be the last:<a href="http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirostroke.htmlLots" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirostroke.htmlLots</a> of other good articles on Chirobase too.  I believe chiropractic to be woo because the theory underlying it is so very woo-riffic.</p>
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