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		By: tori and my friend avery		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tori and my friend avery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BEATING ANIMALS IS WRONG.I THINK PEOPLE WHO BEAT SEALS OR ANY OTHER KIND OF ANIMALS SHOULD BE BEATEN SENSELESS.AND WHOEVER THINKS ITS FUN TO BEAT SEALS YOU NEED TO BE SHOT IN THE HEAD.. I LOVE SEALS AND I AM PLANNING TO GET A PET SEAL SOON.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEATING ANIMALS IS WRONG.I THINK PEOPLE WHO BEAT SEALS OR ANY OTHER KIND OF ANIMALS SHOULD BE BEATEN SENSELESS.AND WHOEVER THINKS ITS FUN TO BEAT SEALS YOU NEED TO BE SHOT IN THE HEAD.. I LOVE SEALS AND I AM PLANNING TO GET A PET SEAL SOON.</p>
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		By: Wyatt		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wyatt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vj, do you know what a &quot;myth&quot; is? Can you read?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vj, do you know what a &#8220;myth&#8221; is? Can you read?</p>
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		By: Vj		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5860</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow fuck you guys how in the world do you find this right. You people can all burn in hell with your seal killing clubs shover down your throats]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow fuck you guys how in the world do you find this right. You people can all burn in hell with your seal killing clubs shover down your throats</p>
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		By: kylie lockhart		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kylie lockhart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 10:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I THINK THAT SEAL HUNTING BULL SHIT AND VERY IN HUMANE!!!! HOW CAN YOU FIND BEATING SEALS TO DEATH FUN IN ANY WAY. IT A SICK AND TWISTED SPORT AND WHO EVERY IS A PART OR AGREES WITH THIS HORRIBLE GAME NEED TO BURN IN HELL!! YOU GUYS ARE ALL SICK FUCKS!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I THINK THAT SEAL HUNTING BULL SHIT AND VERY IN HUMANE!!!! HOW CAN YOU FIND BEATING SEALS TO DEATH FUN IN ANY WAY. IT A SICK AND TWISTED SPORT AND WHO EVERY IS A PART OR AGREES WITH THIS HORRIBLE GAME NEED TO BURN IN HELL!! YOU GUYS ARE ALL SICK FUCKS!!!!!</p>
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		By: Corey		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/story.html?id=ac4fbc25-bdd3-4a7f-bea8-b02275edcea5&amp;k=52647&amp;p=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; And this happens also &lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/story.html?id=ac4fbc25-bdd3-4a7f-bea8-b02275edcea5&#038;k=52647&#038;p=1" rel="nofollow"> And this happens also </a></p>
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		By: the real cmf		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the real cmf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[noel: of course not: high moral ground is always right in a debate or discussion...but what&#039;s next?In reality all killing is cruel ( I can say that especially b/c I was once &#039;killed&#039; with a .357), and the compassionate are always correct to weigh the outcome; but Heavens to Zeus help us if we leave the daily workings of meat gathering to the compassionate--most of the &#039;compassionate&#039; folk that I know always bring back Cheeto&#039;s and chips; a twix bar or two, and some granola with soy milk....once in awhile, organic bison jerky.Then again, I haven&#039;t been to a Rainbow gathering for quite awhile....the rest of those who talk about compasion always have this hidden agenda behind it that doesn&#039;t include me.This reminds me of that whole &#039;if you were on that plane that crasfed in the Andes, would you eat the guy in the seat next to you if you were starving?&quot; debate...you don&#039;t know what you would do until you are there waiting for the last breath to fll out of one or the other of you, and anything else is pure, self aggrandizing speculation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noel: of course not: high moral ground is always right in a debate or discussion&#8230;but what&#8217;s next?In reality all killing is cruel ( I can say that especially b/c I was once &#8216;killed&#8217; with a .357), and the compassionate are always correct to weigh the outcome; but Heavens to Zeus help us if we leave the daily workings of meat gathering to the compassionate&#8211;most of the &#8216;compassionate&#8217; folk that I know always bring back Cheeto&#8217;s and chips; a twix bar or two, and some granola with soy milk&#8230;.once in awhile, organic bison jerky.Then again, I haven&#8217;t been to a Rainbow gathering for quite awhile&#8230;.the rest of those who talk about compasion always have this hidden agenda behind it that doesn&#8217;t include me.This reminds me of that whole &#8216;if you were on that plane that crasfed in the Andes, would you eat the guy in the seat next to you if you were starving?&#8221; debate&#8230;you don&#8217;t know what you would do until you are there waiting for the last breath to fll out of one or the other of you, and anything else is pure, self aggrandizing speculation.</p>
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		By: uncle noel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uncle noel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Citing examples of cruelty doesn&#039;t justify cruelty. I&#039;m glad that Gorden hopes seals are clubbed unconscious so they don&#039;t suffer too much; at least he values compassion. Are people who place more value on compassion necessarily wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citing examples of cruelty doesn&#8217;t justify cruelty. I&#8217;m glad that Gorden hopes seals are clubbed unconscious so they don&#8217;t suffer too much; at least he values compassion. Are people who place more value on compassion necessarily wrong?</p>
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		By: Gordon S		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think there is an alternate agenda, except maybe using the seal hunt as an anology for less cute animals.  (Again, note, that seal pups don&#039;t actually get killed.)I don&#039;t want to make the argument that because killing animals is natural, it is therefore right, because I don&#039;t believe that to be true.  But at the same time, I find it pretty hard to get worked up about killing anything as stupid as a seal.  I don&#039;t think the ability to mimic behaviour in exchange for treats is necessarily the mark of a smart animal.The biggest problems for me when it comes to killing animals are mistreatment, sustainability, humane slaughter, and intelligence.Seals aren&#039;t mistreated, they spend their lives in their natural habitat.  Anything on a factory farm, as numerous videos can show you, are endemically mistreated.  You need only watch that latest video with the downer cows being pushed around with forklifts for evidence, or the PETA videos of chickens being kicked into walls.  The contrast is sharp, but I don&#039;t need to even bother with that, because the lifestyle of these seals is not only better by comparison, it is as natural as you can possibly get.Sustainability.  We&#039;ve been over this one, the hunt is sustainable.  So are the factory farms, even though it shiould be mentioned that they have negative environmental effects far beyond some boats out on the ice floes.  Lakes of blood and shit, etcetera.Humane slaughter. Seals get clubbed in the head, presumably pretty hard.  I would imagine that in the majority of cases, they are killed immediately or at the very least made unconcious and sustain massive brain injury.  Of course, there are same that take a whack or two extra, cause the first one misses the cranium, or some that only get knocked unconcious, and wake up later.  Same with factory farms.  I don&#039;t see much difference between the two, here.Intelligence.  I went over that one before.  I don&#039;t give the seals much credit.  We can train rats to use little green rakes, so bouncing a ball around isn&#039;t too impressive.Now, use those metrics on things like:Whaling, which violates all those concerns except for mistreatment, though we&#039;ve started with the midrange sonar and even just general noise pollution, so even that is iffy.Salmon fishing, which violates sustainability in a big way.Deer/Moose/Etc hunting, which is almost always a very inhumane slaughter method.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is an alternate agenda, except maybe using the seal hunt as an anology for less cute animals.  (Again, note, that seal pups don&#8217;t actually get killed.)I don&#8217;t want to make the argument that because killing animals is natural, it is therefore right, because I don&#8217;t believe that to be true.  But at the same time, I find it pretty hard to get worked up about killing anything as stupid as a seal.  I don&#8217;t think the ability to mimic behaviour in exchange for treats is necessarily the mark of a smart animal.The biggest problems for me when it comes to killing animals are mistreatment, sustainability, humane slaughter, and intelligence.Seals aren&#8217;t mistreated, they spend their lives in their natural habitat.  Anything on a factory farm, as numerous videos can show you, are endemically mistreated.  You need only watch that latest video with the downer cows being pushed around with forklifts for evidence, or the PETA videos of chickens being kicked into walls.  The contrast is sharp, but I don&#8217;t need to even bother with that, because the lifestyle of these seals is not only better by comparison, it is as natural as you can possibly get.Sustainability.  We&#8217;ve been over this one, the hunt is sustainable.  So are the factory farms, even though it shiould be mentioned that they have negative environmental effects far beyond some boats out on the ice floes.  Lakes of blood and shit, etcetera.Humane slaughter. Seals get clubbed in the head, presumably pretty hard.  I would imagine that in the majority of cases, they are killed immediately or at the very least made unconcious and sustain massive brain injury.  Of course, there are same that take a whack or two extra, cause the first one misses the cranium, or some that only get knocked unconcious, and wake up later.  Same with factory farms.  I don&#8217;t see much difference between the two, here.Intelligence.  I went over that one before.  I don&#8217;t give the seals much credit.  We can train rats to use little green rakes, so bouncing a ball around isn&#8217;t too impressive.Now, use those metrics on things like:Whaling, which violates all those concerns except for mistreatment, though we&#8217;ve started with the midrange sonar and even just general noise pollution, so even that is iffy.Salmon fishing, which violates sustainability in a big way.Deer/Moose/Etc hunting, which is almost always a very inhumane slaughter method.</p>
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		By: the real cmf		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/03/31/its-seal-hunting-season-again/#comment-5854</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the real cmf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[here is a deer being &#039;finished&#039;...no report about how long it languished, or how long the blood trail might have been.Would folks be happier if the seals were shot like this? Is this cruel?http://youtube.com/watch?v=cd4TZZ0iSDY&amp;feature=relatedor this? watch the squirrels in the middle of the vid:http://youtube.com/watch?v=4FwgOqoArqc&amp;feature=relatedSo, generally, it seems there is always this crossroads, where no one has any advice, or ideas about how to provide for the humans, but lots of morals when it comes to animals.noel: &quot;I don&#039;t have &quot;solutions.&quot;I do: figure out how to provide for the people, which should nullify the argument that killing those lil&#039; white furry cuties is valid. Anyone?But the amount of time, energy, money and other resources that is spent by various individuals every year to go up there, film the event over and over, and then talk about it endlessly could likely be better spent taking care of the people that claim to depend on that limited resource--buy them off as it were, kind of like we pay the police to not be criminals, or pay the farmers to NOT grow corn down here...Unless, of course, there is another agenda afoot...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a deer being &#8216;finished&#8217;&#8230;no report about how long it languished, or how long the blood trail might have been.Would folks be happier if the seals were shot like this? Is this cruel?<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=cd4TZZ0iSDY&#038;feature=relatedor" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtube.com/watch?v=cd4TZZ0iSDY&#038;feature=relatedor</a> this? watch the squirrels in the middle of the vid:<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=4FwgOqoArqc&#038;feature=relatedSo" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtube.com/watch?v=4FwgOqoArqc&#038;feature=relatedSo</a>, generally, it seems there is always this crossroads, where no one has any advice, or ideas about how to provide for the humans, but lots of morals when it comes to animals.noel: &#8220;I don&#8217;t have &#8220;solutions.&#8221;I do: figure out how to provide for the people, which should nullify the argument that killing those lil&#8217; white furry cuties is valid. Anyone?But the amount of time, energy, money and other resources that is spent by various individuals every year to go up there, film the event over and over, and then talk about it endlessly could likely be better spent taking care of the people that claim to depend on that limited resource&#8211;buy them off as it were, kind of like we pay the police to not be criminals, or pay the farmers to NOT grow corn down here&#8230;Unless, of course, there is another agenda afoot&#8230;</p>
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		By: Corey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My understanding that the way they kill the seals isn&#039;t cruel.  As ugly as it looks to see a picture like the one at the top of this post, it&#039;s meant to be a quick painless death, the same way they try to do it in slaughterhouses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding that the way they kill the seals isn&#8217;t cruel.  As ugly as it looks to see a picture like the one at the top of this post, it&#8217;s meant to be a quick painless death, the same way they try to do it in slaughterhouses.</p>
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