Comments on: 4000

By: the real cmf

the real cmf — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:26:10 +0000

Nearly 800 private contractors so far…but their deaths are completely voluntary, whereas the legally consigned US troops are a mixed bag ranging from voluntary to voluntary with objections…http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-02-23-contractors_x.htmhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/warriors/faqs/

By: Dunkleosteus

Dunkleosteus — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:02:00 +0000

...better armed...Read: better armoredIn putting together the stats, I discovered that just over 1,000 American contractors have also died in the war, so I added that to the US military death count.Many of the "military contractors" (in old days, soldiers of fortune), are indeed "Americans", but not from the United States but from countries like Colombia, Nicaragua, and Chile. Does anyone know the total number of military contractor casualties? I suspect not, since even the total number of contractors is a mystery (it is however comparable to the number of US soldiers if not more).

By: Dunkleosteus

Dunkleosteus — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:55:53 +0000

I read somewhere that about 3000 US veterans kill themselves in every year (not counted, of course). Combined with other physically maimed and more or less mentally traumatized soldiers (tens of percents of veterans) who need medical assistance, the actual number of casualties is far larger and the impact of the war will be seen even in the United States for decades to come.Because the soldiers are better armed, medicine has improved a lot, and the injured soldiers are moved out from the battlefield much quicker, we are not seeing similar numbers of US casualties as in Vietnam. In addition, much of the violence in Iraq is between Iraqis instead of being directed to the US troops. This can change at any moment, especially if somebody does something extremely stupid…

By: Alan Kellogg

Alan Kellogg — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:50:20 +0000

Now think about a war where you have 4,000 dead every day. Tons more wounded and maimed. It can always be worse, and the way things are going in certain parts of the world it will get worse. The day will come when the aldershot we call the Iraq war will be remembered fondly.

By: the real cmf

the real cmf — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:43:56 +0000

Did you once say that ‘ matrilineal, matrilocal societies wage more [external]wars than any other societies’? Here, we raise cannon fodder…

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:03:56 +0000

Of course the administration wants to use 4000; it is a fairly small number in the context of military action. That’s what makes it semi-palatable to the public, although the round-number milestone will doubtless generate more interest, for a while at least.Were I in a position to do so, I would see to it that every single family member of service age of every Senator, Congressman, and President — including direct lines of descent — were given first-level draft numbers, and that any military action, whether declared as war or not, triggered a draft of these individuals to immediate and undeferrable front-line service. Come to think of it, add the families of military contractors, too.As long as war profiteers reap their gains paid in the blood of (to them) faceless statistics, there is no incentive for them to face the costs they impose on the rest of us. Perhaps when the whole corrupt war machine are forced to look their own flesh and blood in the eye and send them off to die, they will be a little more careful about what causes are truly worth sacrificing for.

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:10:46 +0000

Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud. I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole earth. I will crown every hillside with a place of worship consecrated to peace. ~ Charles Sumnermore...